PRIVATE INTERPRETATION AND FRUITCAKE
COMPLIMENTS OF THE INTERNET - A COMPILATION OF THE MANY WHACKOS, NUTCASES, AND GENERAL WEIRDOS OF THE LOONEY FRINGE OF CHRISTIANITY
Compiled and Commentary by Edward A. Hara
It should be painfully clear to any right-thinking person who observes the landscape of Christianity in America that the Protestant Rebellion has created a hydra-headed monster. Nowhere else but in America, land of rebellion and the autonomous spirit which bows to no one but its own reasoning, can you find such a hodge podge of various religious screwballs. The common denominator to them is that they all loudly proclaim that their understanding of the Holy Scriptures is the absolute Holy Spirit guided truth. They also (at the same time) condemn everyone else who disagrees with them as being totally wrong, and in some cases, on their way to eternal perdition.
With this in mind, I think it would be highly enlightening to compile these various whacked out writings as a mute and eloquent testimony to the effects of rebelling against the one, holy, Catholic and apostolic Church our Lord founded upon St. Peter and going instead one’s own way. This little paper (if it serves the purpose it is intended for), will show quite well how important an authority above the individual really is. These are people and groups that insist that there is no select group of men and a select body (such as the Catholic Church) to whom the holy Spirit guides in a unique manner. Thus, this paper will challenge this assertion and demonstrate how easy it is to fall off the edge of the world theologically when one insists that the charism of the Holy Spirit and His guidance are given promiscuously to every man. So, with a grin and plenty of giggles, let’s dive in!!
THE TRUE BELIEVER FINALLY SHOWS UP
I never in my life thought I would hear ANYONE in Protestantism criticize the following people as being unregenerate:
John Murray, Ned Stonehouse, Lorraine Boettner, Thomas Chalmers, Thomas Boston, J.I. Packer, Charles Spurgeon, Horatio Bonar, Louis Berkoff, A.A. Hodge, John Reisinger, Gene Breed, and Gordon Clark.
Here is a sample of his blanket condemnation of all these "pretend Calvinists" who, according to him, are screaming in hell right now. This is the last paragraph on his condemnation of the great Charles H. Spurgeon. I wonder if Mr. Bell has led over 25,000 people in his lifetime to a profession of faith like Brother Spurgeon did?
I believe there are multitudes of men who cannot see the truths, or at least, cannot see them in the way in which we put them, who nevertheless have received Christ as their Saviour, and are as dear to the heart of the God of grace as the soundest Calvinists in or out of heaven." [unregenerate "Calvinist" Charles H. Spurgeon, from "A Defense of Calvinism" (ironically enough)]
Well, it’s at least interesting to see a "true Calvinist" tell us that Charles H. Spurgeon, that "Prince of Preachers" who spent his lifetime condemning Catholics to hell, went to hell himself as an unregenerate person. It is always nice to have the voice of God’s authority handy to speak regarding these things. Wonder if there will be a special place in heaven for Wallace Bell and his ilk so that the rest of us scruffy sinners, (who expect that if we do attain to eternal felicity, it will be by the grace of God and not doctrinal correctness) won’t bother him?
I would like to compile and distribute a directory of names and addresses of individuals who are of like mind regarding the gospel. To do this, I have generated a list of statements. The statements are as follows:
(1) The gospel is the good news of salvation (including everything from regeneration to final glory) conditioned solely on the atoning blood and imputed righteousness of Christ.
Uh huh. You are going to be disappointed if you ever learn Greek and find out that "imputed righteousness" is a myth, which Luther made up.
(2) Every regenerate person believes the gospel.
Well, seeing the caliber of men whom you have condemned to hell for their "heterodoxy", one wonders exactly what the Gospel is that you believe. It certainly isn’t the good news of the grace of God to poor, undeserving sinners. It is more like one must be a "true Calvinist", believe 100% the same way YOU do, and then you might have a shot at Heaven. This means, of course, that the great doctor of the Church St. Augustine most certainly is in hell, since he believed in those damnable Catholic doctrines. In fact, until John Calvin came along, Heaven was going unpopulated, wasn’t it?
And by the way, why didn’t you include John Calvin and Martin Luther in your list of those who were unregenerate and damned? After all, they both venerated the Blessed Virgin and held festival days in her honor!!! What modern Calvinist would affirm these actions as ‘orthodox’ ones?
(3) It is not possible for a regenerate person to confess a false gospel.
Then none of the believers St. Paul wrote to were really saved because Paul warned them against turning back to the false Gospel of Jewish law/works and thus apostatizing. Yet Paul addresses them as "brethren" and "saints" as if they were really, real believers. Hmmmmmm.
(4) All Arminians (for the purposes of this list, an Arminian would be anyone who believes any or all of the following: partial depravity, conditional election, universal atonement, resistible grace, conditional perseverance) are unregenerate.
Where did I miss God making you the judge of who is and who is not regenerate?
(5) All who know what the doctrines of Arminianism are and believe that at least some Arminians are saved are unregenerate (this includes professing Calvinists who say they remained Arminians for a time after they were regenerated or who say that some Arminians are their brothers in Christ).
(6) God does not desire the salvation of, is not gracious toward, and does not love the reprobate.
God is NOT love? Where’d you get that idea?
If you are in agreement with all of these statements and would like to be listed in this directory, please let me know. Also let me know if you would like to be part of an e-mail discussion list that is exclusively for those who agree with these statements. The few of us who believe the true gospel need to deepen our ties and encourage each other in the faith.
The lead article in this issue is what we plan to produce as an evangelistic tract. This tract is directed toward all persons in general, no matter what their beliefs. We plan to produce another tract that is specifically focused on evangelizing Arminians, as there is a serious lack of evangelistic materials that are directed at the typical Arminian church-goer or pastor who is going about to establish a righteousness of his own. We hope to have these tracts translated into many foreign languages. If any are interested in receiving these tracts, please contact us. We already have some interest in different parts of the world.
Do the world a favor and keep your sick little pamphlets to yourselves. We have enough weird in the world without you selling your brand, thank you!!
I went to 181 Internet sites before I found this guy, one Wallace Bell, who, along with his tiny church of the "truly reformed" (those TR’s are such a PAIN!!), are apparently the only ones who will be in Heaven. I really had to wrestle with this one, since to put him as lead off hitter might make everything else that follows seem just bland and uninteresting. I finally decided that this guy is soooooo whacked that he simply HAS to have the pre-eminence in the hall of intolerance, bigotry, and theological egos the size of a Sherman tank.
Well, such fun! Let’s move on to contestant number two, fresh from the sunny plains of Abilene, Texas and compliments of the House of Yahweh, heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeere’s
YISRAYL HAWKINS AND THE SABBATARIANS!!
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y Dear Friends,The Pope recently sent a one-hundred page letter to many influential Catholics and Christians to try to convince all the world that they have the RIGHT TO CHANGE Yahweh’s Laws. These Laws are found in the first five books of EVERY Bible.
Yahweh’s 613 Perfect Laws, including the Ten Commandments, were inspired to be WRITTEN AND TAUGHT by the Prophets and Apostles.
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n this one-hundred page letter the Pope tried to EXPLAIN AWAY the Fourth Commandment.Exodus 20: 8-11
8 REMEMBER THE SABBATH DAY, TO KEEP IT HOLY.
9 Six days you shall labor and do all your work,
10 But the SEVENTH DAY is the Sabbath of Yahweh your Heavenly Father. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your wife, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your manservant, nor your maidservant, nor your cattle, nor the stranger who dwells within your gates.
11 For in six days Yahweh made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them; and rested the SEVENTH DAY. Therefore, Yahweh blessed the Sabbath Day, and hallowed it; Yahweh made the Sabbath Day holy.
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eading these same Scriptures from The Jerusalem Bible we find:Remember the sabbath day and keep it holy. For six days you shall labour and do all your work, but the seventh day is a sabbath for Yahweh your God. You shall do no work that day, neither you nor your son nor your daughter nor your servants, men or women, nor your animals nor the stranger who lives with you. For in six days Yahweh made the heavens and the earth and the sea and all that these hold, but on the seventh day he rested; that is why Yahweh has blessed the sabbath day and made it sacred.
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he Pope fully admits in his letter that the SEVENTH DAY, Saturday, is the SABBATH which Yahweh COMMANDS us to KEEP HOLY by resting on this day. Yet, in this letter, we are asked to IGNORE this commandment and keep Sunday, the first day of the week, as the day of rest. Your Bible clearly states that THIS IS SIN.T
he FOURTH COMMANDMENT, as well as each of the other nine, IS A LAW.Well Duuuuuuuuhhhhhh!!!
Hebrews 4:8-11--
8 Now Yahshua caused them to REST IN OBEDIENCE TO THE LAW, SPOKEN OF BY YAHWEH in a day previously.
Do you like the way Yisrayl contorts and distorts the Scriptures to prove his point? This is Protestantism 101. It is typical of the theological gymnastics and misinterpretations which Protestants indulge in to prove that their denomination ALONE has "the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth".
How conveniently Yisrayl forgets the admonition of the great St. Paul regarding the keeping of days:
Col 2:16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath :
Too bad Yisrayl wasn’t alive during the times of the Apostles so that he could have set them straight. Their changing of the day of God’s rest from Saturday to Sunday has, according to Yisrayl, damned millions of souls who have celebrated on Sunday since the first century. Or perhaps Yisrayl conveniently forgot that the Apostles (and St. Paul) wrote this too:
Joh 20:1 The first of the week cometh Mary Magdalene early, when it was yet dark, unto the sepulchre, and seeth the stone taken away from the sepulchre.
Joh 20:19 Then the same day at evening, being the first of the week, when the doors were shut where the disciples were assembled for fear of the Jews, came Jesus and stood in the midst, and saith unto them, Peace be unto you.
Ac 20:7 And upon the first of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul preached unto them, ready to depart on the morrow; and continued his speech until midnight.
1Co 16:2 Upon the first of the week let every one of you lay by him in store, as God hath prospered him, that there be no gatherings when I come.
YISRAYL!!!! Why were they meeting to "break bread" (Eucharist) on the first (day) of the week?? Oh, I know, he’ll have some sort of answer, probably trying to state that they weren’t meeting in religious celebration, but just to have a meal together. Any one for a little dishonest exegesis?
Of course, those demonic Apostles and deceived disciples who changed this are wailing in hell right now regretting that they ever tampered with the Law of God. Never mind that they received their instructions directly from the Holy Spirit according to the same Bible that Yisrayl claims to honor. Never mind that the Lord Himself promised that the gates of hell and death would never overcome the Church. That doesn’t apply here, because a greater than the Lord is here among us. Yisrayl Hawkins and his interpretive skills save the day for anyone who will listen and not take the mark of the Beast, which is Sunday worship.
10 For he who has entered into His rest has also ceased from his own works, as Yahweh did from His.
11 Therefore, let us be zealous to enter into that rest, so that no one may fall after the same example of unbelief.
Hebrews 10:26-27--
26 For IF WE SIN WILLFULLY after we have received the knowledge of the truth, THERE NO LONGER REMAINS A SACRIFICE FOR SINS,
27 But a certain fearful expectation of JUDGMENT, and fiery indignation which will devour the adversaries.
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t is plain to see from these Scriptures that if you allow the Catholic Church to DECEIVE you into breaking Yahweh’’s Laws, it is YOU who WILL SUFFER the result of this sin. Hebrews 10:26-27 clearly states there remains NO more SACRIFICE for one who WILLINGLY sins--breaks Yahweh’’s Laws.Well, there it is. Not only does ole Yisrayl condemn us Catholic "Law Breakers", he condemns all Protestants and Anabaptists who keep Sunday as the New Covenant day of rest. I must say that this is a pretty talented guy to be able to drag both Protestants and Catholics into one room of condemnation together! I wonder how contestant number one, good ole Wallace Bell the infallible Calvinistic interpretor of Scripture, feels about Yisrayl condemning him to hell for worshipping on Sunday.
Yisrayl is some kind of strange 7th day Adventist offshoot. But he’s too good at interpreting and being Jewish to actually join those erroneous Adventists. And he’s much, much better at finding the truth than the Holy Spirit, who was promised to lead the Church and Her leaders, the Apostles, into ALL TRUTH.
Now tell me the honest truth, wouldn’t you just love to see Wallace Bell and ole Yisrayl locked in a 12 x 12 room for a week with nothing but a microwave, some frozen pizzas and a Bible. That would be well worth paying for, wouldn’t it?
And now, for some comic relief from the seriousness of being branded with the mark of the Beast (damn my forehead itches something terrible lately!!) I found this interesting little tidbit at the Catholic Herald site, and give them thanks for it
LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOUR "OUR STYLE’’
We’ve had things like rave Masses, and pictures of Our Lord made up to look like South American revolutionaries -- but now try this for size: the mini-musical of Rodd & Marco. The duo, who come from the United States, but now live in Fife, Scotland, are billed as Great Britain’s premier Christian comedians and dramatists. To prove it they have just re-released Men in Christ (a pun on the Will Smith film, Men in Black) with accompanying mini-musical CD and mini-Bible study.
Watch out for the number Boom Shake Shake Shake the Tomb, an Easter rap for Roman soldiers, which begins: ""Yeah! Come on! Tell it like it was! Yo back up! Keep away from the tomb! I’’m a Roman soldier gotta give us some room! Me and the squad protect it you see? If they gonna steal the body they gotta come through me! They said he worked wonders! They say he was Christ! Me and the boys gonna make sure there’s no heist.""
The soldiers later sing together: ""He’s alive! He’s alive! Gimme five! He’s alive! He’s alive! Gimme five! Gimme five! He’s alive! He’’s alive! Gimme five!"" Not exactly the World Youth Day, but I suppose at least it’s Good News for the ""scum of the universe"".
Surely there is a middle way between levity and an apparent sheer lack of a sense of humour. Evangelicals in Gloucester are picketing the 11th-century cathedral in an attempt to stop Harry Potter and the Philosopher’s Stone from being filmed there. They say it is sacrilege to portray the Gothic building as ""Hogwarts"", the fictional school of wizardry and witchcraft depicted in the book.
""Witchcraft is about rebellion against God -- it is about manipulation and control,"" said the groups spokeswoman, Paula Clare. ""As adults we should be protecting children and standing up to say that witchcraft is wrong.""
Rev Nick Bury, the Dean of Gloucester, is a little more upbeat. He said: ""They [the Harry Potter series] are splendid books. They emphasise that truth is better than lies, good overcomes evil, and the use of gifts should be responsible. They are extraordinarily wholesome books and children should be encouraged to read them.""
As a compromise, Lamb’s Passage proposes that filming should go ahead as planned, but as a pay off, all witches should be rounded up, drowned, hanged and burnt at the stake -- preceded, of course, by a lengthy and well-publicised press campaign to name and shame them. (As if we needed one anyway . . . we know where they are!!!)
See? Being a Christian really can be fun if you have a fine sense of the humorous and just remember that Christ promised to build His Church despite the fact that the world is full of lunatics. So many nutcases, so little time. According to my Internet Search Engine, 4983 left to examine. Shall we look for another?
TODAY'S EVANGELICALS EMBRACING ‘ROMANISM’
by Wilson Ewin
Pastor Wilson Ewin's latest 76 page book thoroughly documents the fact that Roman Catholicism is indeed the world's deadliest cult. It further documents the way in which Charismatic error and New-evangelical compromise have given Romanism an unwarranted and unscriptural opportunity to deceive millions of uninformed believers. In an effort to give this important documentation the earliest and widest possible readership, brother Ewin has given us permission to reproduce the major portion of his book. Additional copies of this special edition of FOUNDATION can be obtained from the Fundamental Evangelisitic Association, PO Box 6278, Los Osos, CA 93412, 805-528-3534. However, the full text of Pastor Ewin's original publication which includes important graphics and photographs with helpful captions can be obtained from:
Uninformed believers?
In other words, men like Scott Hahn, Marcus Grodi, Dave Armstrong, Gerry Matatics, et al, just jumped right into the Church without the slightest thought of what they were doing or how they were damning their souls, right? Must have been that devilish incense. Mind control stuff, that incense. Gotta watch out for it!!
Looks more like Pastor Ewin, smart man that he is, wants to make his little nest egg selling end times prophecy booklets which trash the Whore of the Revelation. After all, those prophetical booklets are big business. Pastor Ewin is nobody’s dummy. He can see the writing on the wall (and it looks like dollar signs).
Well, it doesn’t take ole Ewin real long to jump into the usual Fundamentalist gutter:
"I hope it will be made clear to the (papal) Nuncio that we do not desire to make any inquiries as to terms of peace with Hitler, and that all our agents are strictly forbidden to entertain any such suggestions." 1 Such was the British reply made on June 28, 1940, following a Vatican request that Great Britain and the Commonwealth forces surrender to Nazi Germany, Pope Pius XII's friend and ally. Then Prime Minister Churchill assured his people, "We shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds... we shall never surrender....2 Forward, unflinching, unswerving, indomitable, till the whole task is done and the whole world is safe and clean. "3
Another of the ridiculous blanket condemnations of the Vatican. Pope Pius XII was Hitler’s friend and ally? There have been numerous papers written on this which Pastor Ewin conveniently ignores. As early as 1946, TIME magazine was hailing, along with the Jews of the newly created state of Israel, Pope Pius XII as a hero for all he did in saving a great number of Jews by hiding them and being less than cooperative with Nazi authorities in rounding them up. So struck by this act of heroism and compassion, the Rabbi of the Jewish people in Rome converted and even took as his new christian baptismal name the name of Pope Pius - Eugenio. Strange behavior for one who has watched the Pope cart Jews off to the ovens. Unless, of course, it is another of the continuing massive lies propagated by those who simply hate the Church and care not for truth at all.
We do not know exactly why Pope Pius made the request to Churchill that he made. Perhaps this is taken totally out of context of what was happening in the world. We know, for instance, that many have criticized the Pope for not taking a real strong, open, verbal stand against Hitler regarding the persecution of the Jews. What is not reported is that when the Bishop in Sweden did the same thing, Jews were more vigorously than usual rounded up and summarily shot, much to the dismay of the Bishop who had wanted just the opposite.
Ah, but what’s truth to Fundamentalists anyway when you can trash the Catholics, eh? So as long as we are heaping up the baloney, let’s go for a whole Dagwood sandwich.
It was not until the year 787 A.D. and the Seventh Ecumenical Council that an already apostate church became engulfed in idolatry. God then punished Europe with the Dark Ages. He still deals with those nations under Vatican control. Multiple social problems of poverty, degradation, ignorance and backwardness stalk throughout the lands to haunt their citizens. Nevertheless, faithful men preached the truth of God's word and His Spirit prevailed. Nations were transformed and societies emerged from the stifling darkness which Romanism had created and imposed upon them.
What "faithful men" is this guy talking about? I thought lies and revisionist history belonged to the Democratic party. This is such fun. Because he has made this statement, I know that there are probably hundreds of his brain dead followers who will parrot this line of nonsense, without any reference to papers or writings to prove his claims.
Hey, EWIN!!! There was nothing in the world but Catholics (Ed. Note: and a few Eastern splinter churches) until Martin Luther went nuts in the 16th century. What faithful men were you talking about? Name, rank, and serial number, please. Oh, oh, oh, wait a minute. He’s reaching for his good old dog-eared copy of THE TRAIL OF BLOOD!!!
Yeah, right!! Until we get further information such as this - you are just another liar. And he proves it again and again, spouting off the usual Fundamentalist boilerplate against the Church.
The above words ring of the Reformation spirit, of that period when men and women of God perished by millions because they dared to unmask and describe Romanism as Babylon, the woman drunk with the blood of the saints, seated on many waters which "are peoples and multitudes and nations and tongues." 38 Amazingly though, throughout the speaker's many years of teaching and writing, never did Walter Martin print material or speak specifically to expose Roman Catholicism as the foremost of all the cults in America.
MILLIONS?? How many millions would this be Ewin? Some of these Fundamentalists keep using the number 69 million as if this is God’s truth. But the simple fact is that if it were indeed millions, Europe would have been emptied of persons. There simply weren’t that many people in Europe at that time. But, hey, why let a little thing like facts deter a good session of Catholic bashing?
And in a final example of judgementalism, Ewin blasts Dr. Billy Graham, John Stott, Luis Palau, Chuck Colson, and Dr. Jack Van Impe. One wonders if Christ or Pastor Ewin will be seated on the Judgement Seat when time comes to an end!!
THE GNOSTICS ARE COMING!! THE GNOSTICS ARE COMING!!
Internet forums are such great places. There’s just no telling who will drop in and leave a calling card to his own personal web site. Here is one from "Gabriel"
THE INCARNATION OF REASON
FACT: Here is wisdom. This calls for skill; let anyone who has intelligence work out the number of the beast, for the number represents a man's name, and his number is six hundred and sixty-six.
- Revelation 13:18
How can a nation elect an actor to be its president?
R O N A L D W I L S O N R E A G A N
1 2 3 4 5 6 1 2 3 4 5 6 1 2 3 4 5 6
6 6 6
Look beyond the obvious and closely at the name written above:
The name REASON is even mockingly embedded within this name.
A KEY:
1. The first of the first.
2. The second and third of the third.
3. The fourth, fifth and sixth of the second.
Do not be surprised by what you read.
For anything to be incarnated on the physical plane, the environment has to meet 'certain conditions', so that the being that is incarnated, will be able to survive in its new environment. Remember, also: 'like above, so below', we human beings operate simultaneously on the earth plane AND on the spiritual plane.
For any type of evil to be able to endure the earth plane, human suffering has to be present. This is why evil cannot stand the righteous, for it cannot withstand the light emanating from righteous men and women.
I didn’t realize that the State Hospital was giving furloughs this year. Reading that last paragraph is like an exercise in walking through Rod Serling’s TWILIGHT ZONE. One can only wonder what it’s like to be with him when he wants to order pancakes for breakfast. Probably like Jack Nicholson’s character in AS GOOD AS IT GETS.
Well, it took a little more reading, but our boy finally let the cat out of the bag. This fellow is some sort of classic gnostic. Believes in reincarnation, yet has the AUDACITY to excoriate the 2000 year-old Catholic Church of our Lord for some of our dogma. The Catholic Church, the supposed damner of souls, purveyor of lies, and all around general bad apple Church doesn’t even spew forth nonsense like this:
North America, 1783
A very successful plantation owner is enjoying the best that life had to offer: a wife, a new son, and a very successful business. This man, however, had a peculiar tradition: Every night after his dinner, he would go out to where his slaves were, pick one and beat him up for no reason.
This man loved his son very much and taught him everything that he knew, so that his son may follow in his footsteps.
His son was intelligent and quickly learned everything about the family business. However, he also picked up 'The beating of a slave a day' routine from his father. So the two men would carry on this tradition almost every day.
The plantation owner dies and his son inherits everything. He carries on doing exactly as his father taught him. He does this so well that one would not even know his father was gone.
His father re-enters the world again, but this time he is born a slave on his own plantation!
This slave quickly grows up and for some reason, the other slaves feel that: There is something 'wrong' with this one and they try as much as possible to keep away from him.
The plantation owner's son changes. Now, instead of picking on a different slave each night, he just picks on one. He picks his own father, now born a slave.
He doesn't know it and his father, and his father, who is now a slave, also doesn't know it (but he keeps getting a feeling that he has 'been here before'). But now his life is incredibly hard.
The Lesson
This man has created a hell and now he is living in it.
Uhhhhh, no palie boy. You think THIS is hell. You haven’t seen anything yet!! There’s a place reserved just for folks like you who oppose Christ’s Catholic Church and think you know better than the authorities put over us by the Lord Himself. Not only that, you are a real devil of a heretic from everything I have read of yours. Man, you make Arius look like a piker!! I love that part where you state that we are EQUAL to God. Yeoooooow!! If I was within 10 feet of you I would be looking for a place to hide before the lightening came crashing down on your head. Aren’t you fortunate that God is so gracious even with nitwits like you who think you have all the answers and yet have nothing orthodox to say at all.
This story teaches us several things. If you murder, you will be murdered. You cause suffering, you are causing yourself to suffer.
They say you can't 'take it with you', well, 'they' are wrong for your actions are your true possesions. Your deeds here on earth is what you will take with you into your next incarnation.
So if one's actions are one's true possesions, do you see how silly it is to build up material things here on earth? So many waste their lives amassing wealth (which from a higher perspective is worthless).
We have to understand that the earth is a school for us humans. We pick when and where to be born in order to learn lessons that would help us gain knowledge to become 'Like God'.
WE pick when we will be born? I think this guy is going from religion to religion to pick and choose what suits him. Mormonism 101, if I remember correctly. The idea that we pick our lives and live them out before God according to some plan which we choose with God before being incarnated to the flesh. Whew!! This is one big time heretic!!
In Everyday life, if a student in a school doesn't learn the lesson taught during the school year, that student gets to repeat that grade until the lessons are learned.
On a higher level however, if an incarnated soul (and our souls are immortal - we just change bodies), doesn't learn the lessons it came down to earth to learn, it is sent back to learn those lessons.
That is why pursuit of wealth and having your ambition blind you is so meaningless.
Just imagine all the crap you had to go through in this life: ALL THE CRAP. Now, imagine having to relive all this crap over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over. Well, I guess I'm trying to make a point here. If you want, you can start right now to cultivate love, moderation (charity), hope, and faith.
Haven't you ever met a person and felt that you 'knew' him or her? Haven't you had a 'gut feeling' about something, but ignore it? We don't come down to earth empty handed. We all come down to earth with spiritual gifts to help us learn the lessons we must learn.
One thing we must learn it to recognize it (THAT IT IS REAL) and use it. A warning: Once your spiritual gifts are recognized, don't sell your ability for money (like TV psychics) because once you do, you lose that gift.
We all are of the same big family and your friend today could have been your brother in a previous life.
Holy Shirley McLaine, Batman!! Did you see that karma run the red light?
Understand that every event is your life is no accident. It is a beacon for you to know that you are on course with your life lesson.
So how does one start? Study The Book of Proverbs. This book has 31 chapters (and almost every month has 31 days), so take a chapter a day. Put your heart into your study of this precious book.
Excuuuuuuuuse me? Here’s a guy who has no time at all for the Bible regarding such esoteric theories as reincarnation (which orthodox Christians of all stripes reject), yet he insists that we read Proverbs to get wisdom. Someone ought to give him a good dose of the Early Church Fathers to get this guy’s head straight!!
Now I know that the even the orthodox Protestants wouldn’t even want anything to do with this guy, but I still insist that this is the ultimate epistemological outcome of "private interpretation."
Know it well. Once you start your study, you'll start to accrue wisdom.
Wisdom will come to you and you'll come to see that wisdom is better than gold.
They say victory is ours, now it all depends how we wage the war. So stop being afraid and live the life you were born to live.
That is: Love Life and Live.
But when you finish reading this, then remember all the evil in the world, you start to get depressed. Do not look at evil in that way; instead look at all the EXPIRENCE your soul can gain by fighting it.
One starts to fight evil by getting wisdom for himself or herself.
No, my deceived young friend. One starts to fight evil by becoming righteous through an intimate relationship with Christ. It is rather easy to see that your god is the gray matter you have between your ears. Guess what? WRONG GOD!!!
SECRET SOCIETIES KILLED JESUS - PART 1
Hot dog! Just when I was afraid I wouldn’t find anymore nuts for my fruitcake, I come across the "secret society" boys!! Thank God for the Illuminati. What would people like this do for fun if the Illuminati suddenly disappeared.
Now I haven’t even begun to read this site yet, but I’ll bet that somewhere down here the Catholic Church is part of this conspiracy. Wanna bet? Let’s see. Dumm de dah dum de dah ---- reading the usual stuff from these loonies. Guess I’ll cut and paste for a bit:
The New World Order is coming
Are you ready?
Stand by for insights so startling
you will never look at the news the same way again.
We will demonstrate today that the Jewish religious leaders were not traditional Abrahamic Covenant Jews, even though they certainly gave great lip service to it; rather, the Pharisees of Jesus' day were members of the secret society called the Cabala. The Cabala was as occultic and Satanic as any that has ever existed. The Pharisees literally were controlled by Satan at the time that Jesus carried out His ministry.
Okay. The Jews get it first. I wonder how that theme will carry through this wacko’s writings. The Illuminati ---- Jewish Cabalistic conspiracy to overthrow the world and remove pork from it forever.
No more BLT’s with iced tea. This IS serious stuff folks!!
How did secret societies get started, and why were they necessarily secret? The answer is simultaneously shocking and informative, for it lays the foundation for understanding any secret society. Christian author, the Reverend Alexander Hislop, published a book entitled, "The Two Babylons: The Papal Worship". He states that secret societies can be traced back to Nimrod, who became, after his death, the "first of deified mortals" (Page 32). Who was Nimrod? Not too many years after the great flood, survived only by Noah and his family, a mighty man arose in what is now known as ancient Babylon. His name was Nimrod, a mighty warrior, and he commanded a tremendous presence upon what is now known as ancient Babylon. Nimrod established a Satanic system of idolatry openly, with many people flocking to this worship. At this time, the predominant religious system that ruled the world was the worship of the One True God. Soon after Nimrod established his "alternative" religion, based upon witchcraft and idolatry, Shem, one of Noah's sons, was greatly angered and was motivated by Almighty God to remove Nimrod. Shem militarily attacked Nimrod, defeating him, and taking him prisoner. Shem executed Nimrod and many of his Satanic priests and followers. As an example of the thorough nature of his victory, Shem ordered Nimrod's body to be cut into pieces. Each of these pieces was sent throughout the known world to demonstrate to everyone that the worship of Satan through idolatry and witchcraft would not be tolerated. The world seemed safe from this tide of evil.
Gee, that didn’t take long, did it? Using Alexander Hislop’s wretched piece of screed as a source of truth. The writing is so bad that the publisher of it disavowed it and converted to the Catholic faith. Some credibility we have HERE, eh?
God established His Holy Scripture as written sacred work. He repeatedly stated that this written word would never change, that it would be absolutely and completely fulfilled, and that it would last for eternity. Since Satan always works in the opposite way as God, we should not be surprised that he places his great emphasis upon oral teaching.
So in other words, when the Apostles taught what Jesus had taught them by the passage of their oral traditions, they were acting in league with the devil? Remember, the Scriptures would not be canonized for some 400+ more years! When St. Paul said to the Corinthian church that he would come and "set the rest in order", was he acting as a satanic agent. I mean, after all, the things he set in order in the Corinthian church were never written down in Scripture for us to know about, but I am sure the elders of the church orally passed them on from generation to generation. I am sure they became part of the liturgy. St. Paul the satanist. Boy, that’s a new twist, ain’t it?
Of course, this contradicts clear and consistent Biblical teaching that man is inherently evil.
Only in Westernized Calvinistic thinking!! The Orthodox Catholic church regards this as pure nonsense.
This year, 1992, constitutes the 216th anniversary of the founding of the Masters of the Illuminati on May 1. We are currently in the 66-day period leading up to the 216th anniversary of the official birth of this country on July 4. In several occultic books, I have read that the "guiding spirits" of Weishaupt were telling him that the process leading to the New World Order could take as many as 250 years. However, I believe they may have been looking at the regeneration interval of 216 years, a number created by the multiplication of 6x6x6.
If this theory is correct, we should then be able to see an occultic signature to current events. Since the New World Order is planned to produce a monopolistic economy which will produce the greatest potential for profit the world has ever seen, I have been watching the American Financial Markets for several months now. After languishing in the mid-2500's for some time, the Stock Market's Dow Jones Average began to climb toward the 3,000 point level, even though the economy was still mired in recession. There was simply no economic reason for the Stock Market to climb. But climb it did, finally surpassing the 3,300 point level this Spring.
At the close of business on April 29, 1992, the Dow closed at 3333!! Gold also closed at $337 an ounce. Therefore, at the opening bell on April 30, the Dow Jones Average began business at 3333 and gold began at $337 per ounce!! Do you see that we have three sets of 33's here? Remember, the number, 666, is very often hidden within numbers 33 space, 33 space, 33. Occultists throughout the world would interpret this data as representing 666 as the world began to pass through the 66-day period, from April 30 to July 4.
Finally, an article in the Sun Chronicle on May 3, reported that the Stock Market was overvalued by 66%!! Events on this critical date abound in threes and sixes.
Numerous New World Order authors have stated that the time period immediately preceding its actual implementation would contain the events found in Matthew 24:
Hey, guys, not only can I use numbers, but I can spell as well.
Y*O*U A*R*E N*U*T*S !!!
Would you really want this guy to be your neighbor? Wheeeesh!!
You know, this kind of thing evidences a real lack of belief in a sovereign God who has everything under His control. In Daniel 2, God said that the kingdom set up by the stone cut without hands would last "forever". He also promised that the Gates of Hell, which are represented by these conspirators (and I don’t doubt for a minute that evil men exist and get together for nefarious ends) would not overcome the Church. Infiltrate? Sure! The Church will be wheat and tares till the end of the world, but it will never be taken over by the wicked ones to the destruction of men’s souls. So what if Pope John Paul II IS an Illuminati? Does that change the Church? No. Does it invalidate the Sacraments? No. And the great thing about history is that just as the wicked think that they have the upper hand, and just as they are ready to spring their trap, the Lord will step in. He always does and the bad guys always lose. Given the promises made to the Apostles and St. Peter, and by extension, the Church, I expect no less.
Except, of course, if I was this kind of Fundamentalist nutcake.
THE END OF THE WORLD CAME - AND NO ONE PAID ANY ATTENTION!!!
Wow!! Someone must have left this site running and forgot he had put up these prophecies!! This should provide at least a modicum of amusement for a while.
Why do I sound so cynical? Because there are MOUNTAINS of evidence on the international scene that are MORE THAN PERSUASIVE, that Y2K is going to devastate ENTIRE NATIONS, and ENTIRE SEGMENTS OF THE GLOBAL ECONOMY (small business, oil and gas, health care, small to large financial institutions, etc.) Supply lines in dozens of industries are going to be broken indefinitely, international trade is going to be thrown into chaos, as weaker nations falter, and the risk of social chaos exists in virtually every part of the world, thereby calling to task every welfare agency, military, para-military and police force. 911 and other emergency communications systems will experience huge failures.
John Koskinen has at least admitted that most of the Y2K problems will not take place at midnight January 1, 2000. 55% of all Y2K failures will take place throughout the year 2000. This is NOT a one-day problem. It is going to be at least a year-long problem.
Well, it’s almost September 1, 2000 and you and Gary North are false prophets. I do hope you are hiding in a cave somewhere in New Mexico, not for fear of the sky falling, but out of sheer embarrassment!
Why is Y2K any matter for Bible-believers?
You and I are presently observing the impending fall of current Rome. Let me give you some fascinating facts that support this idea.
Oh goody!!
1. The present Pope is 79 years old and in failing health. Catholics around the world are expecting the next Pope to be an "EVIL POPE". There is a universal expectation that the Roman Catholic Church is about to undergo a terrible overthrow, with evil forces from within taking over the present leadership. It is time for a "changing of the guard" that will render the Catholic church forever changed in its political and spiritual composition. This is tantamount to a "FALL" and subsequent "COOP".
2. Malachi Martin, author of "Keys of this Blood", "Windswept House", "The Jesuits", and other revealing books, tells from an insider’s point of view how the Roman Catholic Church is one of THREE major players in the Millennial Endgame -- COMMUNISM, CAPITALISM, and CATHOLICISM. Martin has uncovered some of the Vatican’s most guarded secrets regarding betrayals and conspiracies. Mysteriously, Martin recently died as a result of injuries from a fall. Nevertheless, the word is out: the Roman Catholic Church is about to change forever into one of the world’’s all-time most powerful political forces. It will perform in perfect harmony with the New World Order, classical communism, and the rich elite.
3. The Year 2000 computer problem may contribute heavily to the collapse of the present Catholic machinery. The Vatican is itself a high-technology entity, with massive Internet, Radio, Television and Telecommunications networks. It is situated in the heart of Rome, Italy which is one of the least prepared cities on earth for Y2K.
Consider these facts about Rome’s likelihood of Y2K devastation:
Professor Ernesto Bettinelli of Padua University told the BBC in February that Italy’s Y2K Committee had just been formed, and nothing had been done at all by the Italian government to address the Y2K dilemma. He is the unpaid head of an unpaid committee to remedy the problem in only a few months.
Italy’s volatile communistic political environment is not conducive to aggressive, high-tech solutions. Governments tend to be unstable and short-lived. Experts say that Italy should have begun in 1993 in order to finish the necessary changes by Y2K. As late as early March, there were no telephones yet installed at the Y2K offices.
The Gartner Group, a US research company, estimated the Italian government would need $590 million to fix its problems.
Lawrence K. Gershwin, National Intelligence Officer for Science and Technology, stated in a report October 13, 1999, that "We are also concerned about possible Y2K-related disruptions in countries planning major tourist events -- for example, ITALY, Egypt, Brazil, and the Caribbean -- should local infrastructures experience significant failures." Gershwin also stated, "we see the chance of some significant failures in countries such as Italy."
Italy normally has 2-3 million tourists per year, but some estimate that Rome will have as many as 28 million visitors for the Vatican’’s JUBILEE 2000. All these visitors stand to be impacted by Y2K failures. Coincidentally, there are long-standing Union Workers disputes in Rome that threaten major strikes among transportation sectors such as trains, buses and taxis in the Year 2000.
Italy’’s predominant communications company, Telecom Italia, plans an overall expenditure in excess of $1.27 Billion, but their website contains absolutely no concrete evidence that they will be in compliance. Their Y2K pages give massive details of what their plans are, but no real indication of the results so far, or their expected status. Gershwin said, "Many well known companies that follow Y2K preparations list countries such as Russia, China, and Italy as likely to have telecommunications problems and we have no reason to disagree with these assessments."
Their failure could have a devastating impact on the Vatican State.
The City of Rome provides water and sewer utilities to the Vatican. At the present, the Vatican is $24 million dollars in arrears, and a legal dispute is underway. Meanwhile, Y2K status of these utilities cannot be verified. Mariella Gramaglia, head of the city's Y2K task force has admitted the likelihood of both electrical and telecommunications failures. The Vatican may well be forced into emergency status by utility failures in Y2K.
Italy’’s plight was headlined in The Times UK as "Tardy Nation Invites Chaos at Milleennium Celebrations". In the May 14 article by Richard Owen, the education expert on Italy's Year 2000 Committee, Romano Oneda said, "Italy is going to crash, and we are going to be crucified. We are supposed to make things go so smoothly that nobody would realize there was ever a problem. Instead we will be the scapegoats. We have only consultative powers, and no one is listening to us."
According to the same article, "The Interior Ministry, which controls police and immigration services, hoped to guarantee most essential services by the end of this year, but would not be fully compliant until July 2000. "I don't think they have quite grasped what this is all about," one official said. Planners in Italy and Vatican City are only now beginning to realize that they face a nightmare."
A survey in the spring revealed that only 2 per cent of the Italian public had heard of the Y2K problem. As late as November 7, the Associated Press reported that "Italy's best hope now is focusing on emergency plans in case of failures."
"Italy is very, very far behind,'' said Nick Gogerty, an analyst at International Monitoring, a British-based technology consulting group that rates countries' Y2K preparedness.
Will the Vatican fail? The Rev. Ciro Benedettini, a Vatican spokesman, said workers recently ran simulations on both its telephone and broadcast systems to test for Y2K bugs. But the Vatican is fully dependent on Italy for critical services such as electricity and water. "In that sense, we are at their mercy,'' Benedettini said.
I believe we are likely to see the prophesied fall of Babylon mentioned in Revelation 14:8, followed shortly thereafter by a new Roman Catholic infrastructure that is totally New World Order - compliant, followed shortly thereafter by the unveiling of the Mark of the Beast by that same new Beast.
Time will tell.
Well, time did tell and I hope you are at least honest enough to be deeply embarrassed.
AND NOW A WORD FROM THE REAL ANTI-SEMITES
This just gets better and better all the time. I should have enough nuts by now to make several fruitcakes for my observance of the pagan religious festival "CHRIST-MASS" Perhaps I can sacrifice a couple of virgins while I’m at it!
Jew World Order vs. Vatican/Pope of Rome
Jew world order vs. the Vatican/ Pope of Rome--------- Out of the Jew World order will come the Antichrist (yes, virginia, he WILL be jewish). Out of Vatican/ Whore Church will come the False prophet. Both are "enemies" of each other, yet they dialectically evolve together to form Satan's Endtime World Empire Both, in reality, combine their forces in holy rebellion against YAHWEH, the creator and sustainer of the world.
This is actually a page of links to other sites, which are much fun to read. The interesting thing I find about this page is that it plays New Age music in the background and it links us up to a couple of Islamic Sites for the propagation of the Islamic faith. (Hmmmmmm…….I wonder if he knows that Enya is considered a New Ager by most in the field of music)
Oh well, hatred makes for strange bedfellows, doesn’t it?
APPARENTLY JESUS DOESN’T LIKE CABLE EITHER!
An evangelist in England, Jim Sepulveda, was given the photo from someone who worked at a weather station, in 1986 or 87. Some time later, Jim clinically died, saw Jesus, and came back to life. He says the One he saw while dead is the same as the One in the satellite photo! He recognized Him immediately! There is a video testimony of Jim, telling how he got the photo, his death experience, etc. Videos may still be available at The 11th Hour Television Ministry, P.O. Box 4848 Modesto, CA 95352. This is where Jim was interviewed. Just ask for Jim Sepulveda's testimony.
I wonder if Jim’s conversion will still be considered valid if he too turns to the Holy Mother Catholic Church. This is an interesting story at the web site of a Catholic Church hater, one who would probably not accept as valid the stories of those in the Catholic Church who have had similar experiences. Jim Sepulveda - yes, that’s an authentic conversion story. But any Catholic - nah, they are definitely receiving messages from demons! Oh, consistency, where art thou?
AND THEN THERE ARE JUST PLAIN OLD NUTTY NUTS!
Another vivid evidence that placing a man alone in a room with a bed and a Bible will not necessarily produce a Christian!
The Serpent-of-Wisdom Bible College
(At least they got the name right!)
DEPARTMENT OF THEOLOGY
PERSONAL SALVATION...
The END of DEATH ~and~
BAPTISM in the HOLY SPIRIT
A SERPENTINE DISCOURSE in SEVEN LOQUACIOUS LESSONS
THE REVELATORY DIVINE MYTH
& MYSTERIES
The Salvation Myth Describeth HISTORY & Future Events
.Such a Cosmology was held in Israel & by Christ...
Heed-Ye the Revelation in this Myth, as I Now Restore it
The Supreme Importance of Heaven's Salvation Plan
The Greeks' Elevated Contribution to Salvation-Gnosis...
Elements of Hellenistic Mystery Religion Salvation
The Hellenistic Mysteries, Olde Isreal & Christ Interrelated
CORRUPTIONS of SALVATION THEOLOGY
Thy World is Ever-Seeking Salvation too, in its Way...
Corruption of the Term Itself Doth Abet Thy Misery
The Catastrophic Misuse of this Term in Christendom
Salvation's Correct & Original New Testament Meaning
Scriptures Which Identify the True Salvation Method
Christ's Union Paralleled that of Other Mysteries
'Salvationism' as 'tis Found in Thy Church Denominations
How Error Arose within the Church at Rome...
Lapsing into Ignorance, Due to Dependency upon Form
As Original Meanings Lapsed, Newly Devis'd Ones Arose
Reformers Posited an Equally Erroneous 'Salvation'
Protestants' 'Salvation' Consisteth of False Guilt-Release
The Calamitous Effect of Salvation's Corruption
WHY EROS TRIUMPHS over DEATH
(The LAW)
The Singular Manner in which Union MUST Be Attained
The Soul Needeth to Exchange More Love with Others
The Rite Itself Must Not be Profaned by Naming It Publickly
Jesus' Fulfillment of the Salvation (Seed)-Bearer, Baal
The Holy Ghost (Goddess Spirit) Must Come upon Thee
Authentic 'Salvation' Connotes 'A Vessel of Divine Seed'
Jesus Understood 'Salvation' as Refuting Death (the Law)
'Resurrection' was a Symbol of Eros & Liberative Lawbreaking
Worship ... Receive Salvation... Defy Death (the Law)
Break the Law... End-Thy-Humanness... Become Divine
Overcoming Thy Reluctance to Kneel and to Acquiesce unto Him
THE HOLY SPIRIT is GODDESS ENTHUSIASM
Overcoming Reluctance... Attaining the Holy Spirit
Scripture's Reticence to Discourse Boldly about the Spirit
The Spirit's Arrival Conformeth to Myth (see LESSON 1)
That the Spirit is of Divinely Female Gender...Only She Can Bear unto Thee a Sufficiency of Love
From Her 'Fire' Upon the Bride, Thence to the Earth...
METHODS for ATTAINING SPIRITUAL FIRE
Realize that 'Fire' is Blessedness & Righteousness
From Loathing, to Desire: 'Tis A New Baptismal Gift
Pentecost, the Goddess' Mythic Descent Unto Earth
Attaining the Spirit by the Laying-on-of-Hands
THE FEAST is HEAVEN-upon-EARTH
Full Salvation or Rapture, Consisteth of Psychic Ascent
The Proper God-Emblem is Restored (Inwardly) to Earth
Mankind Dissoveth in the 'Twinkling of an Eye,' Thru Reunion
Life's Meaning & Its Reason are Recover'd Memories
The Earthly Mission: Destroy the Anti-Erotic Death God
These Events Occur Supernaturally; Scripture Proveth It
Heaven's God is the Father of Love
WISHING FOR A NICE "DONATION"!!
The fabrications just keep on a comin’, don’t they? I wonder how many of the people who dutifully pass this junk on, like good little Protestants, ever stop to think about what they are saying. Does this guy KNOW that Constantine had this in mind? Was he THERE to ask Constantine? "Hey, man. Whatcha doing making up them stories about seein’ Crosses and stuff, eh?"
Does he know that Constantine removed the Church from Rome because he was concerned about the influence of paganism and how it was affecting the Church? Doesn’t sound like the work of a pagan to me.
Above all else, Constantine's Donation of the Roman secular empire to the alleged Church of Jesus Christ hatched the Inquisition. In this era of terror, 60 million Catholics, Jews, and Christians were raped, sawed in half, boiled in oil, and butchered in unspeakable ways. To show her disdain for the sensibilities of humanity even today, the "Holy Office" of the Inquisition is NOW open for business as usual. All that is needed is for some Pope to give the word, and the Inquisition will continue again.
Constantine's invention of the Holy Roman Empire was indeed some "donation."
60 million, eh? Were there that many people in Europe then? Anyone with the slightest knowledge of Mediaeval history knows that the population of Europe at the peak of the Middle Ages was not more then 40 million. Did the ‘Inquisitors’ kill off everyone in Europe and then import 20 million more people to kill? Nah, this guy must be counting, Protestant and Jewish dogs and cats as well.
"OKAY, FLUFFY!!! RECANT OR WE’LL TURN YOU INTO A HOT DOG!!"
Great sense of humor, those Inquisitioners!!
DIT DAH DIT DAH DIT DIT DOOBEY DOOBEY DU WHA!!
Dr. Samuel Finley Breese Morse- Posthumously
We have "The rest of the story" on the inventor of the telegraph.
Samuel F.B. Morse was born in 1791 in the home of a firey Congregational pastor. Morse, during his youth, was very artistic, and he went to Yale and startled his friends with his miniatures in ivory. Morse wanted to be an artist, but his father didn't approve. Morse rebelled, and he went to Europe to study art. He didn't even do that-- He became a dandy. British directors of the Royal Academy of Arts told him he would have to choose-- Dandy, or Artist. He buckled down and studied art. Upon completion of this, he returned to the United States.
Morse DID prosper as an artist in Europe. The Royal Academy elected his works two different years as best of the year, and Morse twice painted The Marguis de Lafeytte, [ the French commander who assisted George Washington during the American Revolution ]. But, the USA did not treat Morse so well. Morse wanted the commission to paint the rotunda of the new Capitol in Washington DC. He went back to Europe to bone up for the event, and upon return to the USA, Morse learned that a snob factor had developed, and John Quincy Adams wanted a European artist. A nasty letter was published in the papers to Adams, and Morse was blamed. It was untrue, but Morse lost the commission.
In his wanderings to and from Europe, Morse got to thinking about the new invention of transmitting electricity over a length of wire. Morse's family tendency to other skills perked up, and Morse at once designed the telegraph. He honed the thing in theory, and then he made the first model. He had to make his own insulation for the wire. Everything was done from scratch.
We all know about Morse's first message, which he sent over a wire from the US Supreme Court to Baltimore. The first message-- "What hath God wrought?" Now, that is the end of the story in ALL official sources. ALL encyclopedias are totally committed to destroy the rest of the story...
So now the makers of the Encyclopedia Britannica are "Papists" also?
Samuel Morse was raised to distrust the Roman Catholic Church and its leaders. All through his life Morse carried the conviction that the Roman Whore was dangerous. For a few years in the US, after Morse had reached some fame, and after his telegraph was being developed in the US and in Europe, a Roman Catholic Cardinal courted Morse as a friend. Morse eventually learned that the Cardinal was trying to convert him. He was enraged, and Morse realized there was treachery afoot.
Morse also noted how the French Revolution had been largely the work of Roman Catholic agents provocateur. Here is the part they didn't tell you. Morse made a trip to Europe just to consult with The Marquis de Layfette. He asked Lafayette if the Pope and the Vatican might also be plotting the fall of the USA. Layfette assured Morse that this is precisely what was happening. Morse went on to visit Italy and the Vatican, and he was horrified at the filth and evil surrounding the Pontiff and the Vatican.
I seem to remember the French Revolution beheading a number of clerics in France. The whole issue of the revolution ("Look, sire, the peasants are revolting!" "Indeed they are!") was the rebellion of those who didn’t want to be governed by the Church. It was the revolt of those who deified reason over faith. This is a strange way to run one’s church, by killing off numbers of the faithful.
Of course, we are supposed to take this at the author’s word, without any recourse at all to sources, quotes, publications, or any other kind of proofs to validate these fantastic claims.
Like Martin Luther upon his return to Whittenburg, Samuel Morse went home to the USA enraged. He at once went to Abraham Lincoln, and he warned him that the Catholic Church would kill him. He told Lincoln that the Pope was plotting the fall of the USA. Lincoln told Morse that he already knew this, and the two men were stirred and troubled by what they realized was deep evil in their midst. Even then, Lincoln must have found it hard to make such claims public, for the Cardinals would have orchestrated a mockery of Lincoln in the press.
So, Samuel Morse did it for Lincoln. Morse published many tracts and several books telling of the Roman Whore's schemes and evil tricks. These were well known in his day, and it was impossible for the press and the Cardinals to attack him due to his recent fame as an inventor of the telegraph. In the USA and in Europe, groups were throwing money all over Morse, and he used it to publish his tracts and books to Kick The Pope.
By the way, John Wiles Booth was a Roman Catholic, the woman who sponsored him was a Roman Catholic, he hid in the barn of a Roman Catholic, and the doctor who attended his wounds was a Roman Catholic. Booth was whisked into Canada, and transported to Italy and the Vatican, where he became a virtual mascot of the Pope. Agents were sent to find Booth in the Vatican, and they found him dressed in the uniform of the Papal guard. Samuel Morse was right, but the dead beat historians of the Roman Whore have managed to bury this one. Morse linked Catholic immigration to a plot to dilute American Liberty. He was mocked for this, but history proved him right, for Pilgrim New England is now captive of the Pope, and the seat of Protestantism in America, Salem, Mass, belongs to Satan. The USA had no "father Christmas" and Halloween until Catholic immigrants brought them, and it was Catholic power in the South which fueled the hate machine of the Confederacy. Every Catholic ghetto in the USA is depressed to this day, and the havoc on Boston and other US cities is patently obvious. They are cesspools of depravity.
More accusations of the Catholic Church creating squalor where ever She goes. Catholics started the Civil War in America. Catholics are responsible for poverty and ghettoes. Catholics are responsible for the depravity in America. Does this man even realize that it is the liberal Protestant churches who are ordaining sodomites and lesbians as fast as they can find them? Which groups are endorsing same-sex-marriages? Does this man even realize that it is the liberal Protestant churches who are supportive of homosexuality, ordaining women, okaying abortion, and generally tearing down the moral walls of the Bible as fast as they can while the Catholic Church continues to stand against these things? Nope, too busy spewing his ignorant ‘Spirit-guided’ bilge. And that guiding Spirit is NOT the Holy Spirit btw…
Samuel F.B. Morse went to be with the Lord in 1872 in New York City. Thanks, Professor Morse. It is pitifully ironic that the World Wide Web stands on the shoulders of a man who invented the sending of interrupted electrical signals over wires, and yet that whole world is willfully ignorant of his distrust of the Roman Whore.
Yes, but his hatred of the Church lives on, and on, and on, and on.........
RONALD WILSON REAGAN IS THE ANTI-CHRIST, REMEMBER?
If the UNITED NATIONS is the fourth beast of Daniel, and it goes forth to conquer the world, and divides it up into 10 bio-regions (economic free trade zones), and each region has a Ruler/King that rules over them, then how and why would they burn themselves up, per Revelation 17? Revelation 17 clearly says that 10 KINGS, turn upon the whore, and MAKE HER DESOLATE WITH FIRE. They attack and DESTROY mighty BABYLON THE GREAT, and THE MIGHTY CITY BABYLON AS WELL.
How do we resolve this contradiction? How do we resolve this ENIGMA OF MYSTERIES? We resolve any contradiction by DIGGING DEEPER into Scripture, BY READING MORE CAREFULLY. We then MEDITATE UPON THE WORD, and we ask the HOLY SPIRIT to RESOLVE THESE PROBLEMS.
God is not confused, but WE ARE. God knows what He is about, BUT WE DON'T KNOW FULLY WHAT GOD IS ABOUT. We know ONE THING: at the time of the end, IT WILL BE MADE CLEAR. There is no question we are at the time of the end. There is also no question that wrong interpretations are going to be shown for what they are.
That America is THE NATION BABYLON THE GREAT is beyond question. It is not a matter of interpretation, it is a matter of ACTUAL FACT. It is proven by the parameters of God. A careful study of Daniel Seven also will verify this to be true. THAT THE UNITED NATIONS IS THE FOURTH BEAST OF DANIEL IS ALSO QUITE CLEAR. It likewise fulfills EVERY SINGLE PARAMETER LAID DOWN BY THE BIBLE FOR THE ANTICHRIST GLOBAL APPARATUS. No one else comes close. This is not to say that the United Nations as we know it will not be modified to take its position as the world’’s ruler -- it will be, and those changes are already in the works.
Who says it is beyond question? How do you get from a book written to a localized audience looking for the coming of the Beast and False Prophet in the first century to the United States, not even in existence yet, being the nation Babylon? Lots of amillenialists and postmillenialists think that Babylon the Great is a reference to apostate Israel of the first century.
Oh, and then further on down, I found this:
Is Hale-Bopp the HERALD OF LUCIFER? We believe it is, and that many of the New Age prophecies concerning HALE-BOPP will be fulfilled in 1997.
Within the Roman Catholic Church COMET HALE-BOPP is to be the WARNING before the GREAT CHASTISEMENT COMES. According to them, Hale-Bopp will break apart and a huge chunk will strike the sun, and set off a tremendous STORM in the sun, and the world will undergo what could only be called a SOLAR ELECTRO-MAGNECTIC WAVE, which will turn the atmosphere to BRIGHT LIGHT, and will go through every living being. It will feel as though you are "on fire" they claim. This is the WARNING.
Small wonder then that the VATICAN is observing Hale-Bopp closely and has such as interest in it. They do because HALE-BOPP is part of the FATIMA PROPHECIES and was probably confirmed by "Mary" in other visions. Mary is not Mary. Mary is a demonic entity to fool the Roman Catholic Church into accepting LUCIFER, something they will find out all too late.
So keep your eyes on the heavens, and pay close attention to HALE-BOPP, for it will HAUL ISRAEL INTO THE TRIBULATION, and will BOP the world into THE FALSE MILLENNIUM. And your life will never be the same.
Well, seeing as it is almost September of 2000, I think it safe to say that this little piece of prophecy fell rather flat on its face!! Israel still isn’t in the so-called Tribulation (in fact, it isn’t even in the plan of God anymore according to Matt. 21: 33-46) and the sun hasn’t been hit by a chunk of comet. That would have to be one serious piece of comet since the sun can melt anything getting too close to it. 1997 was as uneventful as the Y2K crisis ultimately was.
THE BEAST CAME WHEN?
Verse 8
In verse 8, the Beast, as I have shown previously, is the Roman Catholic Church.
"The beast that thou sawest was" is the terrible reign of the Papacy and the Catholic Church from 538 A.D. to 1798 A.D. It suffered the head wound in 1798 when Pope Pius VI was imprisoned and died in jail.
Hey, wait a minute. I thought the Roman Catholic Church started back in AD 313 when Emperor Constantine "paganized" the Church. Could we possibly call a Fundamentalist Council and get our dates all on the same page here? And didn’t Tim LaHaye say that the head wound is yet to come when the Beast comes to earth after the Christians all leave in the rapture? Hey, we really need some co ordination here.
"and is not" is the period from 1798 A.D. to 1929 A.D. when the Papacy and Catholic church lost it's political power. The head wound was healed by the Lateran Treaty of 1929. At that time Mussolini gave the Catholics the Vatican, declared them a state, and donated a large sum of money.
"and shall ascend" refers to the amazing regaining of political and religious power by the Papacy since 1929.
"and go into perdition" is a reference to complete apostasy and resulting persecution of God's true believers.
"The seven kings" are seven Popes. The reference point for starting the count is presumed to be the 1929 healing of the head wound to Catholicism.
This is a total speculation. Isn’t it interesting how all these different "sola scriptura" types preaching the doom and gloom of the "Great Tribulation" can all be led of the Holy Spirit to warn us and yet all come up with different interpretations, truths, and time lines. Where does he get this idea that the Popes are the seven kings. Certainly isn’t in the Bible, despite his best efforts to tell us otherwise.
And look how close we are to the coming of the Anti- Christ!! Better hope John Paul II stays alive for a long, long time.
"five are fallen"
……………………………………1) Pius XI, 1922-1939
……………………………………2) Pius XII, 1939-1958
……………………………………3) John XXIII, 1958-1963
……………………………………4) Paul VI, 1963-1978
……………………………………5) John Paul I, 1978-1978
"and one is"
……………………………………6) John Paul II, 1978 -
"the other is not yet come" - 7th in the series since 1929, the Pope to succeed John Paul II will be Pope for only a short time to be quickly followed by the eighth.
Verse 11
The beast that "was and is not" refers to the persecuting Roman Catholic "Beast" of the Middle Ages. It will be revived under the eighth Pope, who will "go into perdition".
So, the Pope to succeed Pope John Paul II will be in power for only a short time to be followed by the final Pope. This last Pope will revive the persecutions of "heretics" and lead the church into lawlessness, in an effort to eradicate those who will not accept the mark of Catholic authority, Sunday worship. (See Mark of the Beast / Seal of God). During this final Pope's reign, Satan himself may appear on earth claiming to be Jesus. Since he claims to be God's representative on earth, this final Pope will acknowledge Satan as God and relinquish his papal office to Satan, who will assume the throne to the earthly Kingdom. Thus the church is led into perdition and turned over to Satan, who will then make war on God's remnant people-
Rev 12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
God's people are identified here as commandment KEEPERS, and that includes the fourth, the 7th day (Saturday) Sabbath of God!
Yup. All of this started in 1844 with one Ms. Ellen White (Note: whose Baptist mentor William Miller predicted the end of the world between March 21, 1843 and March 21, 1844: When the Lord appeared to be ‘running late’, he then endorsed October 22, 1844). Prior to that time, all we had was a bunch of pagan Sunday worshipping heathens. No wonder they invented the NFL!!
SOME PEOPLE HAVE TOO MUCH TIME ON THEIR HANDS!!
The Following Major Points of Doctrine will be covered in the body of this text:
That the Bible plainly teaches that baptism "……in Jesus name……" is the only correct "formula" to be used by the Eldership during the physical act of water baptism.
That the "Name" of the God of Abraham, Isisah and Jacob is clearly and openly revealed in scripture and that using the "Name" is a Christian most powerful spiritual weapon.
That the use of the term "Person" in the Nicaea (325AD) and Constantinople (381 AD) decrees of the "Trinity" is improper, and that the "Deity of the Godhead" can not be understood in the terms of "personage"
It should be understood, that once closely examined these points of doctrine would not seem as strange or as odd as they first might appear. That's Right!!! The three major issues covered here deal with the (so-called) "Oneness" doctrine, which also includes the topics of "Jesus Name Baptism" and the Name of God. In fact, because all three of these fit together so perfectly; it, in itself, is evidence of the truth of the doctrine. But then again I'm prejudges! I was; however, at one time a "Card Carrying Trinitarian." Knowing the "Truth of the Doctrine of Jesus Christ" comes by scripture study, prayer, fasting and meditation. Most people would never see these "Doctrinal Truths" (in their scripture studies) unless they are told to look for them.
Face It!!! You were raised (in Christ) believing in the doctrines of the Trinity, "Father, Son and Holy Ghost Baptism" and that the name of God was either unknown, are was "Jehovah (or something like that)."
I challenge you to examine the information provided and that you too, may well find yourself questioning some of the most common doctrines held by Christians for over 1600 years. Doctrines that are incorrect, and that's the truth, in Jesus Name. Amen
Nope, that’s your opinion, based on your private interpretation of Scriptures. Arias rides again!! Some people just never learn. Christ didn’t give you any special charism to interpret the Bible, and that’s pretty clear from your strange writings.
Now Jehoiachin=s other name found in Matthew is Jechonias (Mat 1:11). His mother=s name was NEHUSHTA, taken from an idol named NEHUSHTAN (2Kings 18:4 & 24:8). In 2Kings 18:4 this NEHUSHTAN is identified as the serpent Moses put upon a pole and which the Israelites were worshiping. Jehoiachin=s mother=s name identified her as a "snake." What influence did this woman have on Jehoiakim the father of Jehoiachin? Is this woman's name coincidental or is a prophetic sign of what was materializing in among the Jews? She birthed Jehoiachin who accepted a "snake" throne in Babylon. Is this not mystery Babylon? Was not the religion of satan also a shadow government containing a snake throne? Was not this snake throne an ancient plan of the devil to set up in Jerusalem? How did and will Babylonian Jews aid in the fulfillment of this snake throne coming to Jerusalem, if not knowingly, perhaps then through ignorance? The antichrist most certainly will have a snake throne! This is the fulfillment of the 42nd generation doctrine
.A snake throne for the Anti-Christ. And here I thought I had heard it all.
HATES THE CHURCH AND WHAT SHE TEACHES
Our first contestant for nut of the year comes from the "CHRISTIAN TALK" forum of the Internet and identifies himself as Tim. Tim, as we shall see, uses quite eloquent language to present his case that Jesus was not the pre-existant Son of God as the Church has declared, thus putting himself in that great class of all those who deny the Church’s divine teachings - HERETIC!!
When God spoke His male aspect became a man and His female aspect became a woman. We are made out of the Word and love of God. God’s Word has infinite aspects. Whenever a baby is born, God’s Word is given a name.
Jesus did not pre-exist his birth.
But God’s Word pre-existed the birth of Jesus. Don’t be confused! By the Will of God His male aspect was born and given the name Jesus. Like everyone else Jesus had to grow in wisdom and in favor with God. LK.2:52
Jesus was the first man to fulfill his responsibility, denying his own will, live for God and reach perfection. Jesus was the first man to obey God.
For as by one man’s disobedience many were made sinners, so by one man’s obedience many will be made righteous"" Rom. 5:19
[Had Adam obeyed, as Jesus did, all would have been made righteous and a Messiah, an anointed man, would not have been necessary ]
God helped Jesus through a special birth. Jesus pioneered the path back to God but Christians are not walking on Jesus' path. Christians have created their own path that has not lead them or humankind back to God in 2,000 years. The blind have led the blind into hell.
Huh? Did anyone understand that? I sure didn’t! Don’t ya just love reading the works of those people who have this secret Gnosis, which we other poor, dumb human beings just don’t get? One feels that we should perhaps fall at his feet and listen attentively as he drones on. Whenever a baby is born, God’s word is given a name. What Scripture is that? I can’t seem to remember this one. And such from one who despises the Catholic Church.
Notice in particular the last two sentences. Christ, who PROMISED that the Church would be led into all truth so that the gates of hell would NOT prevail against Her (and by extension, against those faithful within Her gates), basically LIED!! For 2000 years now, there has been NO TRUTH on earth and multitudes have gone to hell. The blind lead the blind. Except for those who accept the teachings of good ole Tim, to whom alone God has revealed the "true truth".
WERE YOU THERE WHEN THE WORLD WAS MADE A VOID?
(Sung to the tune of "Were you there when they crucified my Lord?")
Quasi-Mormonism. We all had a part in the rebellion of Satan against God.
Why did the earth become formless and empty? Because of the rebellion led by Lucifer. We were all there. Some were directly involved in the rebellion, siding either with God or Lucifer. Others, in their apathy, chose not to take sides. But in doing so, they offended the Lord by not showing any support against the rebellion.
So, for the sake of the elect, those that chose to fight against Lucifer’s rebellion, God has chosen to show His mercy accordingly on the rest. Because if there were no elect, God could have wiped the entire slate of His creation completely clean and started from nothing again.
The elect who are of the Gentiles are the non-Israelites of the world, which is basically the meaning of the word gentiles (= nations). They will reign with Christ as kings of their people.
This mystery is that through the gospel the Gentiles are heirs together with Israel, members together of one body, and sharers together in the promise in Christ Jesus. (Ephesians 3:6)
(What about the queens? Why are God’s children always referred to in the male gender? It is only on earth in this physical existence where gender resides. In heaven, there is no gender because there’s no need to procreate. God has already created all His children and He’s a Grandfather to no one. There aren’t any old people or babies either because everyone’s basically the same age and that age would be equivalent to the prime years of our earthly existence.)
In the second outer circle, Israel is infected by the Kenites (the ones destined to be the descendants of Cain) who deceived Israel into believing Lucifer would be a better ruler than God or at least into believing they could exist without God’s help.
God’s plan of redemption is to get Israel back from the Deceiver.
After this I looked and there before me was a great multitude that no one could count, from every nation, tribe, people and language, standing before the throne and in front of the Lamb. They were wearing white robes and were holding palm branches in their hands. (Revelation 7:9)
To those who are God’s elect, this is what God the Lord Says - he who created the heavens and stretched them out, who spread out the earth and all that comes out of it, who gives breath to its people, and life to those who walk on it: I, the Lord, have called you in righteousness; I will take hold of your hand. I will keep you and will make you to be a covenant for the people and a light for the Gentiles, to open eyes that are blind, to free captives from prison and to release from the dungeon those who sit in darkness. (Isaiah 42:5-7)
This second earth is a hardcopy of the first. Everyone will be their own evidence to the way they were. The elect are the only ones who don’t have complete free will. Their lives are guided by the Lord to help complete His plan. He will make sure that they are where they’re supposed to be, when they’re supposed to be there. And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose. (Romans 8:28) Like Satan is already judged to die, the elect are already judged righteous because of their fight against Lucifer and his army in the first earth. Does this mean that Christ died for everybody’s sins but the elect’s? For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly. (Romans 5:6) It’s the blood of Jesus Christ which covers the believer’’s sins acquired in this sinful world. Without the Price paid on the Cross, there would be no afterlife for anyone. The Nephilim blew it when they came to earth in Noah’s time. The angels who did not keep their positions of authority but abandoned their own home - these He has kept in darkness, bound with everlasting chains for judgment on the great Day. (Jude :6) The rest of the people are to be tested. Those directly involved in the rebellion, other than the remnant, will be living in the flesh when the Anti-Christ comes to earth to deceive the children of God again. The angels (Nephilim) referred to in Jude:6 will be released when the Anti-Christ makes his introduction to the world. It will appear at that time like Jesus is returning with a host of angels with him; only he’s the impostor
Fourteen:
Deliverance - Salvation
This little lesson on the number Fourteen is brought to you by the works of Evangelist Ed. F. Vallowe from his book called, Biblical Mathematics - Keys to Scripture Numerics. I could have put it in my own words, but he does it so eloquently:
FOURTEEN is the number that represents DELIVERANCE or SALVATION. It is used some 26 times in the Bible. It was the FOURTEENTH day of the first month of the year when the children of Israel were DELIVERED from Egyptian bondage, and from the stroke of judgment which fell upon the firstborn of the Egyptians. (Ex.12:6-7; 12:12-13; Lev.23:4-5)
The number FOURTEEN is found three times over connected with Christ's coming into the world, and He came to SAVE, or DELIVER His people from their sins.
"So all the generations from Abraham to David are FOURTEEN generations; and from David until the carrying away into Babylon are FOURTEEN generations, and from the carrying away into Babylon unto Christ are FOURTEEN generations." (Mat.1:17)
The Salvation of the soul takes place when one believes, at which time, he comes under the blood of Christ, "Our Passover". But the body will not be delivered from the bondage of corruption until the resurrection of the believer or the rapture of the saints, then the redemption of our body takes place.(Rom.8:20-23)
This explains why the numbers FOURTEEN and THREE are found together. FOURTEEN is for DELIVERANCE and THREE is for the RESURRECTION. In 1Chr.25:4-6 there are mentioned FOURTEEN sons of Heman, and THREE daughters who were for singers in the house of the Lord. Israel was DELIVERED from the plague in Egypt on the FOURTEENTH day. THREE days later they passed through the Red Sea, which is a figure of the RESURRECTION. Then they sang a song unto the Lord. In that song, they said, "The Lord is my strength and song, and He is become my SALVATION." (Ex.15:1-2) This is in line with the FOURTEEN sons and house of the Lord. The children of God rejoice in the SALVATION of their souls, and sing for joy. And they rejoice in the hope of their RESURRECTION.
On his voyage to Rome, Paul and his company were caught in a violent storm. (Act.27:14-44) When the men had despaired of any being saved God sent His angel and told Paul that they would all escape alive. Upon the authority of God's Word Paul told them none would die. (vs 22-25) There were 276 on board the ship. (vs 37) In Romans 1:29-32 we learn that TWENTY THREE is the number of DEATH. TWELVE, the number for DIVINE AUTHORITY, goes into 276 exactly TWENTY THREE times. 276 divided by 12 equals 23, They were saved from death in the storm on the FOURTEENTH day. (vs 33-44) This is in keeping with the number FOURTEEN being the number of SALVATION.
In Galatians 1:15-16, Paul tells about God revealing His Son in him that he might preach Him among the Gentiles. A few verses below he tells that FOURTEEN years after this he went up to Jerusalem with Barnabas and Titus.(Gal.2:1) The record shows that Paul's mission on this occasion was to confer with the apostles and elders as to the question of circumcision being necessary to SALVATION.(Act.15:1-12) Paul's name occurs the FOURTEENTH time in this connection. If one begins to count where it said, "Then Saul, (who is also called Paul) etc." (Act.13:9) then the FOURTEENTH time Paul's name is found is in Acts 15:2 where it said, "They determined that Paul and Barnabas, and certain other of them, should go up to Jerusalem unto the apostles about this question."
The question was about circumcision being essential to SALVATION. But if the count commences in Acts 13:13 when Paul is no longer called Saul, but Paul only, then the FOURTEENTH time Paul's name is found is in Acts 15:12, just after Peter had said,
"We believe that through the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ we shall be SAVED, even as they," (vs 11).
In either case Paul's name is found the FOURTEENTH time in connection with the discussion about SALVATION. And Galatians 2:1-5 shows that this was FOURTEEN years after Paul himself was SAVED.
Another interesting find I’’ve discovered is that the three words, sun, moon and stars appear together in fourteen verses in the entire Bible.
Worth saying again. You have waaaaaaaaaaaaaay too much time on your hands. One more reason that "private interpretation" is a real bad idea. If this all was such truth, where are the writings of the Early Fathers in reference to this? Where is the information from St. Paul giving us at least a clue in this direction?
The road to orthodoxy
Christianity Today editor writes on the post-Armstrong Worldwide Church of God's commendable journey of faith
By David Neff
Evangelicals know this: A high commitment to following God's will is essential to Christian discipleship; so also is a strong commitment to all the truth we glean from Scripture.
But we also know this: Without an informed theology and experience of grace, these discipleship essentials can lead to legalism, spiritual pride, and isolationism.
And yet still another reason to reject "private interpretation" in favor of the Church, which our Lord promised to lead into all truth. Look at what ole Herbert W. came up with in his quest for truth without accountability to the "pillar and foundation" of the truth, the Catholic Church.
That is exactly what happened in the Worldwide Church of God (WCG). Their founder, Herbert W. Armstrong, discerned certain "truths" in Scripture (including the need to keep all of God's law in order to be saved), and he placed a high demand of commitment on his followers (including, for example, a "triple tithe," comparable to what God's Old Covenant people paid). The result was not only a flawed theology, but, in many cases, legalism, spiritual pride, and isolation.
After Armstrong died, the church's new leadership emulated his commitment--and in their search for truth, left behind many of the individual "truths" he had taught.
One of the first doctrines to be questioned after Armstrong's death was his teaching that believers were not born again until the resurrection.
Re-examining that teaching in the light of Scripture led the WCG leaders (who seem to function as a team) to reject their church's teaching that human beings were themselves destined to become gods, which, in turn, led them to revise their doctrine of the nature of God, which, in turn, led them to teach the biblical doctrine of the Holy Trinity. "It was a domino effect," they recently told Christianity Today (CT).
Why didn’t they just accept the teachings of the first seven ecumenical creeds and avoid all that trouble?
In a recently published doctrinal statement, the WCG teaches in the clearest possible terms not only the Trinity, but also salvation by grace through faith. Most evangelicals should have no quarrel with this new statement, although differences in church practice and eschatology will still distinguish the WCG. Its traditional disciplines of tithing and attendance at festivals, which many believed were essential for salvation, the WCG now considers to be helpful, but optional practices.
CT met with a representative leadership group several years ago and was convinced of their commitment, both to Christ and to authentic biblical truth. That commitment, we have learned, has exacted a high price. Many members have felt betrayed by the changes and have left to join splinter groups.
Well, of course. Isn’t that the Protestant way? And some people actually question the existence of 20,000 plus Christian sects, cults, and denominations. Not me, brother. This is all too common.
The change in teaching about the tithe has resulted in drastically reduced income, necessitating layoffs and downsizing of operations. Just as painful as the layoffs has been the grieving for alienated family members.
WCG leadership believes the departures have now slowed significantly. When WCG members gather this month for their annual Feast of Tabernacles worship service, there will be 30,000 fewer in attendance. (Past events have typically drawn about 85,000.) Of those who will stay away, perhaps a third are not worshiping anywhere.
Despite the losses, WCG leaders remain confident. "We believe the Holy Spirit is leading us to these things," they told CT. "We now know much more of what it means to take up our cross and follow Jesus," they said.
Ironically, the question around which much of the change has revolved is this: Are there Christians in other churches? (Armstrong taught that Mother Rome and her Protestant daughters together constituted Babylon the Great.)
The WCG had benefited much from the Scripture scholarship of non-WCG scholars, but it had not considered them Christians because they were not sabbatarians. Suddenly, its leaders faced the dilemma squarely: either these scholars are not Christians, or the Sabbath is not the criterion of Christian identity. Armstrong's view was then decisively abandoned.
CT readers will be glad to know that they are no longer considered among the harlot daughters of the Great Whore. But how will we respond? Sadly, Christians outside the WCG have been suspicious and slow to extend the right hand of fellowship. (A few leaders have been helpful, WCG leaders say: Hank Hanegraaff of the Christian Research Institute and Ruth Tucker of Trinity International University, for example; and faculty from Regent College, Fuller Seminary, and Azusa Pacific University have also helped inform the transition. But by and large, Christians have made the WCG journey of faith and doctrine more difficult.)
CT commends the WCG leadership for its courage in pursuit of truth. Can we now welcome their people into this transdenominational fellowship we call evangelicalism?
Why not? Evangelicalism is composed of every conceivable sort of doctrine and range of theological ideas. Whatcha got against these guys. Besides, perhaps they are good at bridge.
OKAY, EVERYBODY. HEEEEEEEERE'S WAYNE!!
I believe today that I am acting in the sense of the Almighty Creator. By warding off the Jews I am fighting for the Lord's work."
(Adolph Hitler, Speech, Reichstag, 1936)
JOHN 8:44 (Jesus speaking to the Jews) "YOU ARE FROM YOUR FATHER THE DEVIL, and you choose to do your father's desire. He was a murderer from the beginning and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks according to his own nature, for he is a liar and the father of lies."
1 THESSALONIANS 2:14-16 "For ye, brethren, became followers of the churches of God which in Judea are in Christ Jesus: for ye also have suffered like things of your own countrymen, even as they have of THE JEWS: (15) Who both killed the Lord Jesus, and their own prophets, and have persecuted us; and they please not God, and are contrary to all men: (16) Forbidding us to speak to the Gentiles that they might be saved, to fill up their sins always: for the wrath is come upon them to the uttermost." (KJV)
Can one without crucify their mind truthfully believe that the stupid and irresponsible things said in John 8:44 and 1 Thessalonians 2:14-16 were inspired of God, rather than being due to the passions of a man? For it was by such irresponsible things that the Nazis and others have justified their persecution of the Jews.
If the Bible is the Word of God, why is God so misunderstood by so many? Who has said to man that the Bible is God's Word; was it God or priests? And whose self-interest is best served by that claim, God or a priest? For who but priests would want others be so naïve as to think that Satan had no interest, nor influence upon the composition of the Bible?
The history of the so-called "Holy Lands" and Christendom testifies to the religious insanity that is sown by the belief that the Bible is God's inspired Word, and thus, is infallible! For that faith has justified slavery in the name of God, and gave the illusion of justification for the Crusades, the Inquisitions, Manifest Destiny, the Holocaust, and has sown the bloody conflicts in Bosnia and Northern Ireland.
I believe today that I am acting in the sense of the Almighty Creator. By warding off the Jews I am fighting for the Lord's work."
No, Wayne, the problem is not with the Bible, it is with people like you reading it and coming to unwarranted conclusions based on the fact that you have not been given the charism of understanding it. One more proof that "private interpretation" is not a good idea. At his web site, Wayne goes into great detail to present the "contradictions" of the Bible.
Hey, Wayne. Why bother?
AN HONEST PRESBYTERIAN
(NUTS -- BUT HONEST~!)
It is well established that in the earliest era of the church, there was no office above the pastor of the church. An elder and bishop were the same thing. While certain pastors were looked up to and consulted either for their knowledge and piety or for having known the apostles themselves or being in a church once pastored by one, at the same time, all held equal authority in the councils of the church (Acts 15). Augustine, Cyprian, and others testify that this is so, that the elder and the bishop were at one time the same office and that the notion of a bishop above the elders of several churches was something that had developed by human hands and was not taken from the apostolic model itself.
The early church was certainly Presbyterian. Its worship, though in some places rocked with confusion early on, was primarily simple and pure - preaching, Psalm singing, etc. In the earliest days, occasionally manifestations of prophesying or the like occurred, so long as that gift existed as a normal part of the church during the apostolic age and transition from the OT to the NT era.I'd be willing to bet that the Landmark Baptists would have a strong statement about this!! Remember, the Early Church was definitely Baptist, not Presbyterian, Mormon, 7th Day Adventist, Jehovah's Witness, or anything else. The constant among all these people is that the Church couldn't possibly be Catholic!
By the fourth century, with
corruptions mounting in the church, we see the formation of the papacy. In previous generations, Presbyterianism had degenerated to the episcopacy. Because the church was divided into 3 regional Sees - Eastern, Western, and African, and because Rome not only had claim to being founded by an Apostle who initially held bishopric in that church, but also because it was the capital of the Roman Empire, came to be head of the Roman See. It was only a matter of time before the Bishop of Rome came to be considered head of all churches in that See and soon thereafter, to claim to be head of the entire Christian Church. Most bowed down to him. At this time, the mystery of iniquity had built up to the point of the rise of antiChrist, yet he arose within the church, not a pagan temple, for marks of a church still existed among her, though becoming whorish - and we shall see later that not all would bow to the Pope!The office of the Bishop of Rome exerted influence far earlier than after the "paganization" of Constantine. Do these people ever do a thorough reading of the Early Fathers, or only one which helps them find fodder against the Church?
NOBODY BUT US HAS THE RIGHT UNDERSTANDING
Once more, with vigor, just so you don't think I'm kidding.
Beware elect of God of the trinitarians, the twozies, the neo-gnostics, and the Jews. All of these in one way or another deny Jesus as to his exclusive
deity. Only the Monarchains have the revelation of who Jesus really is. Come and join us, be among the real people of the ancient orthodox faith.
A NEW TWIST ON AN OLD RAPTURE THEME
Well, here's something interesting I have never seen before (just when I was beginning to think I HAD seen it all).
Those who have been taught the rapture theory will be particularly susceptible to worshipping this beast and false prophet. Believing that Jesus will come before the tribulation and snatch them away, they will actually believe that this is Christ.
Satan might actually catch bunch of them up into the air as one of his sighs and wonders. They will believe that this is the rapture and will worship antichrist in Jerusalem (more about this later), thinking that is where they will be safe until after the tribulation. Satan may also stage a wedding feast there and call it the Marriage Supper of the Lamb. It will be a fake. Those who fall for this nonsense are in for a rude awakening when the real Christ comes.A bit later I find the basis of this interesting bit of prophecy:
That is Arnold Murray's term, and my correspondent took offense at its use because he does not care for Arnold Murray
Anyone who has ever watched Arnold Murray "teach" on television will understand why this person doesn't like Arnold Murray. He is a screwball who makes absolutely no sense at all with his ramblings. He definitely doesn't have both oars in the water.
As her power increased, the darkness deepened
. In all it is estimated that between fifty and one hundred million people were slaughtered by the Roman Power. And so she is seen by the prophet as being drunken with the blood of the saints and the blood of the martyrs.Do I hear two hundred million? Two and a two and a two.....I have two! Do I hear three hundred million....three and three and three and ......do I hear three hundred million?
Really, when is this going to stop? Seems like the only thing the Catholic Church doesn't get blamed for is bad breath, and I suppose they are busily working up something to prove that also!
Few would realize that the New World Order is a child of the Papacy. As we see the nations of the earth uniting under the auspices of the United Nations, we are witnessing the restoration of her power. It is not yet evident the part that the religious element is playing, but we need to understand the progress of events in the marshalling of the nations for the final conflict, for they will unite under the one head, the Papacy, the seventh head. When we see this happen we can be sure that time will continue only for a short period.
More sewage. You know, for a Church which is going to unite the whole world under its tent in the next couple of years, Rome sure is doing a lousy job. Catholics are persecuted in China, Iran, all the Muslim countries, and cannot bring anyone together. At least, not in time for the "antichrist" to rule in the next couple of years.
Here's the description of this ministry from their Home Page:
Further we call His followers to eve higher standards of conduct to please and bring glory to Him, which also rewards His followers with a more abundant life.
Well, you might start by not spreading the usual pack of lies about Christ's holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church. Or did the commandment regarding the spreading of false witness against others somehow disappear from your radar screens?
Oh, interesting. Only by reading and knowing who Ellen White is and the buzzwords she used can one discover that this is really a site run by the 7th Day Adventist Cult.
OH, THANK YOU GOD, THANK YOU!!
I suppose I shouldn't be such a wise acre, but every time I think I am running out of nuts for my fruitcake, someone like this shows up:
We'll be travelling through the Dark Ages then, to spend some time in mediaeval Europe. The Grail mystery will then be followed into King Arthur's Britain and, eventually, in time, to the United States of America where the American fathers were among the greatest exponents of the Grail Code. Eminent Americans such as George Washington, John Adams, Benjamin Franklin, Charles Thompson, Thomas Jefferson were as much champions of the Holy Grail as were King Arthur, Sir Lancelot and Galahad. Bloodline of the Holy Grail, the book, has been described as "the book of messianic descent". It was a radio interviewer who called it that; and it's an apt description because the book carries the subtitle
, The Hidden Lineage of Jesus Revealed. This of course indicates that Jesus had children and, by implication therefore, that he was married. So was he married? Did Jesus have children? If so, do we know what happened to them? Are there descendants alive today? The answer to each of these questions is yes. We shall be looking at the emergent family in some detail. We will follow the story, their story, century by century; the story of a resolute royal dynasty, the descendant heirs of Jesus who struggled against all odds through the centuries to preserve the Messianic Royal Code down to date.So now we are told that Jesus had children. Well! Let's see where this goes.....
We're all familiar with the gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John, but what about the other gospels? What about the Gospel of Philip, of Thomas, of Mary and of Mary Magdalene? What of all the numerous gospels and acts and epistles that were not approved by the Church councils when the New Testament was collated? Why were they excluded when the choices were made.
Yup. I smell a conspiracy to keep the really true truth from the ignorant masses.
So why were the gospels of Mark and Luke selected if they were not Jesus' own apostles? Because Mark and Luke actually were apostles of Jesus, and the early Church fathers knew this. In those days before the New Testament was corrupted, they knew full well that
Jesus survived the Crucifixion. In these early gospels there was no story of Resurrection; this was added later.Right! And I'm supposed to believe this? Upon what evidence?
About the Speaker: Sir Laurence Gardner, Kt St Gm, KCD, is an internationally known sovereign and chivalric genealogist. He holds the position of Grand Prior of the Celtic Church's Sacred Kindred of Saint Columba, and is distinguished as the Chevalier Labhràn de Saint Germain. Sir Laurence is also Presidential Attaché to the European Council of Princes, a constitutional advisory body established in 1946. He is formally attached to the Noble Household Guard of the Royal House of Stewart, founded at St Germain-en-Laye in 1692, and is the Jacobite Historiographer Royal
.Yeah, blah, blah, blah. Ever notice when the lunatics want to be sure you understand that they alone have the true truth, they build up the speaker to immense proportions. Lots of initials after his name.
He's still a nut!!
WORLD CLASS DEGENERATE NUTTINESS!
So, where has Christ gone?
Answer: Christ has ascended back to the voice which spoke him. Which is the same voice which speaks
to us
and for us
and by us
and through us,
and gives to us our own voice with which we too can speak by way of:
Father is Testicle,
Son is Phallus,
Holy Spirit is Sperm Cell.
Mother is Ovary,
Daughter is Uterus,
and Holy Spirit is Ovum.
(That's not very easy to believe, is it? No it isn't, but bare in mind two things:
The word of the Lord by His servant Matthew in chapter 19 verse 26 saying:
"... with men, this is impossible, but with God, all things are possible."
A repetition of what I've already said:
The word of the Lord by His servant James, the brother of Christ, in the first chapter, verse five saying,
"If anyone lacks wisdom, let him ask of God, who gives liberally and without reproach, and it shall be give him."
Don't just take my word for it, go to the Lord above,
and I shouldn't have to answer to anyone for it.
And then a bit more nuttiness from this guy.
The word of the Lord
by His servant
David, the King
in Psalm 138:9
saying,
If I go up to heaven,.. there,...you. {are}
If I make my bed in Sheol,{hell}.. you,..... look,.... {are there}
(Literal Translation)
The word of the Lord
which you may or may not have heard before saying,
There is a tree called the Tree of Zekum, and it grows in the bottom of Hell, and the fruit of that tree is red devil head fruit, and the unrighteous shall be made to partake of that fruit while they drink boiling water.
(Oh, yuck, vomit. It makes me nauseous just thinking about it. I don't want to eat any devil head fruits. Yuck. If I did it was by mistake. I'd never do it on purpose. Yuck, vomit. {retch} ... just sickening, and disgusting.... yuck.)
The explanation of the Tree of Zekum requires its own secondary explanation, and it all begins with the word of the Lord by his servant
Zecheriah in the fourteenth chapter,
verses four and five
saying,
"The Lord shall stand upon the Mount of Olives and divide the mount, half to the north, and half to the south, and we shall flee into the valley of the cleft thereof."
Now, false prophets and blind seers will proclaim a day of earthquakes and shattered rocks, but
the word of the Lord
by his servant Zecheriah
continues in verses six and seven
"It will be a day when the light wont be there {for you},.... {but} a day known unto the Lord, neither night nor day, but in the evening,.... it shall be light." (Literal Translation)
So behold, now, that prophesy is fulfilled in your eyes, and the Lord Jehovah Himself, is there,... standing on the Mount of Olives. Not an illusion, not imagination, but in reality and in fact, to divide the Mount of Olives, the Temple Mound, and half the City of Jerusalem to the Muslims and the Palestinians, for that was: saying,
the word of the Lord
by his servant Muhammed.
In all fairness to ourselves and others, it was never the Lord's intent that the Tree of Zekum should be used as a sword of vengeance upon our enemies. Neither was it the Lord's intent that his presence on the Mount of Olives should go unannounced to those who thought that His presence was just an illusion. It was always the Lord's intent that His word should be a gift and a blessing to us; to fulfill and enrich our lives as we seek to serve and worship him every day.
Honestly, I'm not sure what this guy is. Very strange, that's for sure. But his Web site was titled thusly:
The True Interpretation of the Revelation of Saint John, the Divine.
So help me, that's the truth, so for his inclusion of the Bible, his rather extensive references to Scriptures, and his interpretation of the words of our Lord, he deserves a place in The Fruitcake Report.
ANGLICAN NUTTINESS AT ITS PEAK
I'd like to point out just a couple of things before the next paragraph. The Anglican Church (known in some circles as The Church of Henry's Hormones) was begin because a certain monarch had the hots for another woman other than the wife he was married to. The Catholic Church refused, and quite rightly so, to grant him and his massive ego, a divorce. So he kicks out the Catholic Church, proclaims himself the head of the new Church of England, and proceeds to have his own way about things.
Here's another reason we Irish despise the English, besides the fact that they are pasty faced little fags in weird costumes:
They can't speak straight!! LOOK at this nonsense!!
The abolishing of the bishop of Rome pretensed and usurped power and jurisdiction within this realm.
Ye shall understand that the unlawful jurisdiction, power, and authority of long time usurped by the bishop of Rome in this realm, who then was called Pope, is now by God's law justly, lawfully, and upon good grounds, reasons, and causes, by authority of Parliament, and by and by and with the whole consent and agreement of all the bishops, prelates and both the universities of Oxford and Cambridge, and also the whole clergy of this realm, extinct and ceased for ever, as of no strength, value, or effect, in this realm of England. In which realm the said whole clergy, bishops, prelates, and either of the convocations of both provinces, with also the universities of Oxford and Cambridge, have according to God's laws, and upon good and lawful reasons and grounds, knowledged the king's highness to be supreme head in earth, immediately under God, of the Church of England, which their knowledge confessed, being now by Parliament established and by God's laws justifiable to be justly executed; so ought every true Christian subject of this realm not only to knowledge, and obediently to recognise the king's highness to be supreme head in earth of the Church of England; but also to speak, publish, and to teach their children and servants the same, and to show unto them how that the said bishop of Rome hath heretofore usurped, not only upon God, but also upon princes of this realm, and their progenitors.
What the .......!!??!!?? Why don't you just come out and say "Ain't no Pope gonna rule over us, baby!" This is what I hate about them faggy English fops.
Could we go a bit deeper into this massive display of hypocrisy?
Here is a little discourse upon the keeping of the commandments:
Of the Transgression of the Commandments
Against the sixth offendeth he that hath to do with any single woman, or is an
adulterer. He that taketh any of his own kin, or commiteth any such vice. He that useth persons against nature, which are called dumb sins. He that doth nourish and stirred up his lust with uncleanly words, histories, songs and images. He that defileth and corrupteth himself with looking, touching, or other wanton thoughts whereunto he casteth favour. He that avoideth not the causes: suffering sloth, idleness, sleep, the company of such men and women. He that with over gorgeous apparel, and decking himself, or with evil manners enticeth other to the lust of the flesh. He that doth minister house, licence, place, time or help to the works of this abominable lust. He that defendeth not another man's chastity with all his counsel and diligence.VI. Thou shalt not break wedlock.
Christ. Ye have heard how it was said to them of the old time: thou shalt not commit advoutry. But I say to you that whosoever looketh on a wife, lusting after her, hath committed advoutry with her already in his heart. [Marginal note: Matthew, 5:27-28]
Paul. Let wedlock be had in price in all points, and let the chamber be undefiled, for
WHAAAAAAT?? Oh, I know. These standards don't apply to Henry, do they? No wonder this church is steeped in homosexuality and women priests!! Anything, which begins with this much hypocrisy, really can't have much of a holy future, wouldn't you agree? I simply can't believe they wrote this stuff with a straight face!
Sorry, my Anglican friends, but you have no one to blame but yourselves.
AN UNPARALLELED DISPLAY OF CHRISTIAN LOVE!
Okay. Perhaps you can say the same thing about me. Perhaps not. You read the following Baptist publication and decide for yourself:
Serious students of the Bible--those who ignore all of the readings for all the verses found in the RV, ASV, NASV, NIV, RSV, NRSV, NKJV, TEV, New... etc.--always have access to more Biblical revelation than Greek or Hebrew scholars who "mess with the Book." This is a fundamental truth. From the pen marks of the "original autographs" to 1995, the Holy Spirit has always been a better teacher (John 14:17; 16:13) than a pile full of lexicons and "word studies" in the hands of Nicolaitan dummies who think the sun rises and sets on Vincent, Vine, Kittel, Robertson, Wuest, Rendal, Nestle, Hort, Hodges, or Machen.
(Humanism shows no "respect of persons." Salvation does not affect it in an apostate Fundamentalist.)
Now here is what you will notice if you spend much time in the Book.
Every heresy in the Body of Christ (200 A.D.-1995 A.D.) comes from "riding a hobbyhorse." In the case of five-point, "TULIP" Calvinists this hobbyhorse has four legs: Ephesians 1:4, Romans 9:16, Romans 9:22, and Philippians 2:12.
Every Primitive, "Hard-Shell" blockhead in America mounted that horsey, and then they made the entire Bible conform to those four verses. It will not conform. You cannot make the entire Bible teach "Irresistible Grace" (see Acts 7:51), Unconditional Election (see 1 Pet. 1:1-2), Limited Atonement (see 2 Pet. 2:1-2, Heb. 10:26-33), or the Depravity of the Will (see 1 Sam. 23:12, where a divine decree fell flat on its face due to FREE WILL).
Any Gentile can repent (Acts 11:18), and any Gentile has enough faith to receive Jesus Christ (Rom. 10:8). The Bible will not stoop to become a Hard-shell "textbook" for Primitive Baptists.
God's Holy Textbook Only
But that is not one-fiftieth of it. The Holy Bible will not stoop to become anyone's "textbook." It is God's textbook. It is HOLY. You may quote "prooftexts" from it, but it will not "adjust" to your creed, your convictions, or your "faith," where you try to bend it to match what you have been taught--by anyone. My lifelong practise--47+ years in the ministry now--has been to always adjust my beliefs to the text, instead of forcing the text to match what I had been taught. This accounts for what BJU and BBC call "Ruckman's peculiar teachings." They are peculiar to apostates who have spent a lifetime altering the King James' text to make the words of scripture teach what they already believed. Naturally, every one of them got his "beliefs" from some "historic position" already laid down for him by a member of the "Scholar's Union."
If you want to see this in action, listen to any Baptist preacher, in America, trying to "teach" Hebrews 6 or Hebrews 10. It is more pitiful than watching a greased pig on ice trying to get away from a polar bear. That goes for any Baptist preacher (or teacher) who believed anything he got at BJU, BBC, Tennessee Temple, Maranatha, Cedarville, or the seminaries at Dallas, Fort Worth, Denver, Louisville, or New Orleans.
WOW!! Everybody gets it from Mr. Right here, don't they? No one escapes the scathing rebuke of this one who is the teacher of absolute correctness. How about a little more of the same?
Now pick up THE BOOK, remembering that it is God's Book;, not a Baptist book. B. H. Carroll, John Broadus, John Bunyan, Dean Burton, Clearwaters, W. B. Riley, Marshall Neal, Stewart Custer, Louis Talbot, John Rice, William Scroogie, Benjamin Warfield, and the humanists who worship them, have nothing to do with what you are about to read. You are going to read the Book.
This is just a page full of ignorant ranting and raving. What is so funny is that it comes from some tiny little assembly of like minded bigots who sit around and condemn everyone else (and I do mean EVERYONE else) and pat each other on the back for being the only true believers on the planet.
God, just keep them away from me, please Lord?
Or as Jack Nicholson said in AS GOOD AS IT GETS
"Go sell weird somewhere else. We're all stocked up here"
THIS IS ONE SICK, SICK PUPPY!
Because the name Fred Phelps didn't stick with me, I didn't recognize who he is until I read a bit into the story. Remember that group of people who picket the funerals of homosexuals with their "God hates fags" signs. That's the guy, the leader of this wolfpack. Fred Phelps. One might think one could reason with such a person until one reads some of the quotes from this Internet site. Then, the only thing I can think of is to keep a shotgun near my bed because this man is definitely deranged beyond any capacity to understand.
Mark Phelps feels nauseated whenever he remembers that night. He was hit over 60 times and his brother, Nate, over 200 with a mattock handle. Nate went into shock. Mark didn't. A boy who became a compulsive counter to handle the stress, Mark counted every stroke. His and Nate's. While their father screamed obscenities and his brother screamed in pain. Every 20 strokes, their mother wiped their faces off in the tub. Nate passed out anyway. That was Christmas Day.
The mother is, like all women in a sick, abusive relationship, seriously disturbed also.
Though he believes he should be the next governor of Kansas, Pastor Phelps has never believed in Christmas.
Yes, I see. That makes him a real holy guy, according to the screed I have read which is written by the Christmas haters. You know, these people won't have a thing to do with "pagan holy days" and the "Christ Mass", but they can beat the bejeebers out of people and not blink an eyelash. What's wrong with this picture?
These reports contained allegations of persistent and poisonous child abuse, wife-beating, drug addiction, kidnapping, terrorism, wholesale tax fraud, and business fraud. In addition, Nate described the cult-like disassembly of young adult identities into shadow-souls, using physical and emotional coercion- coercion which may have been a leading factor in the suicide of an emotionally troubled teenage girl.
And since he was an Independent Baptist, answerable to no one for his life, his ministry, and his doctrines, he could get away with this stuff for years.
Today, raising his family in California, Nate is a devout Christian and a warm, friendly, considerate, mountain of a man. But at 6'4" and 280 pounds, it would be...instructive...to see father and son in the same room today with one mattock stick between them. "I sensed early on this man had no love for us," says Nate. "He was using us. I knew it. And I always made sure he knew I did."
How? How does that kind of abuse bring forth a devout and warm, friendly Christian. Well, God's grace explains a lot. But I tell you one thing. If you could set up that meeting between father and son in the same room with one mattock stick between them, I would pay real good money to see it. I have a hard time being sympathetic for hypocrites who hide behind religiousity while taking out their sickness on little defenseless kids.
"My father was very effective at jamming Bible verses down her throat about wives being in subjection to their husbands," Nate says. "She was a small woman and very gentle. She felt God had put her with Fred and she had to endure." "Oh, mom would try to interfere," adds Mark. "She'd come running out, finally, into the church auditorium as the beating would escalate, and yell wildly, 'Fred, stop it!" You're going to kill him!' "And then my father would turn on her. I remember him screaming, 'Oh, so you want me to just let them go, huh? You don't believe in discipline, huh? Why don't you just shut your goddam mouth before I slap you? Get your fat hussy ass out of here! I'm warning you, goddamit, you either shut up or I'm going to beat you!'
I wonder how many of his parishoners this guy had standing in the same auditorium on Sunday congratulating him on what a wonderful sermon he just preached and how wonderful it was to have him as a pastor. Are you getting sick at your stomach yet?
I don't want to post much more or belabor the point. The only thing I might have yet to say is that this man probably has equal venom for the Catholic Church. Heaven only knows what epithets he has flung at the Church and its members from his pulpit. I suppose he thinks Jesus is just going to be pleased as punch to see him. Wouldn't it be something if at the Judgement Seat, Jesus took the appearance of one of his whupped sons, complete with every bruise ever left on his body?
PENTECOSTAL BEATING UP OTHER PENTECOSTALS (AND ALL OTHERS)
Here's a nice little Oneness site with a plethora of angry things to say, even against other tongues speakers:
Just as Nadab and Abihu tried to worship God their own way and BYPASS the brazen altar and offer "strange fire"; the modern day charismatics bypass repentance and Jesus Name baptism trying to worship God their own way while still being "of the world".
By living worldly and refusing to repent they offer "strange fire" unto the Lord. That is why real Acts 2:38 Christians do not accept the charismatic cults as brethren even if they do obey part of the plan of salvation.
Many false Christians do much study, but are unable to see basic truths, people actually believe that they can be Christian without the Baptism of the Holy Ghost, or they claim to have the Holy Ghost even though they've never spoken in tongues. They really think that their misunderstanding of the scriptures concerning "belief" and "believeth" will save them; and they use that to ignore the truth of the Word of God. They mock at the basic Biblical teachings of holy living and decency, preferring the standards of the "world". And they brazenly lead their families to hell.
What assurance do you have that you are not a false teacher?
Oh, I know. He babbles. Or should I say "Babel-s". He thinks this is the true and only evidence of being a believer, yet he denies that other tongues speakers are really and truly "saved" unless they go all the way to accepting HIS doctrines.
When Peter walked on water by faith it was before he became a Christian and was converted to salvation. Think about that now. He had enough faith to walk on water but he was not yet saved.
What possible proof do you have of this? How does one have faith and yet not be a believer? The very word faith indicates belief. I guess none of the OT saints were saved. After all, they didn't speak in tongues, did they?
Now notice that this poor little lamb is persecuted as well.
Notice that it does not say that the wrath of God is poured out. It is notable that one of the things it mentions is that the real Christian will be hated for His "Name's sake".
The trinitarian hatred for the Name of Jesus in baptism comes to mind.You know, there are so few of these Oneness nutcakes that I can't even find them to hate them. I guess the fact that their belief system has so few adherents means that they are really the "true remnant" as opposed to the rest of us ignorant masses who simply believe that which has been believed for 2000 years.
Description of the "rapture" by this guy:
God comes for His Bride, then WHAM!!
No, Christ returns for the final Judgement and then....well, read Rom. 2: 5-10 to find out what happens. Just pray that you are on the right side of His grace and mercy when that time comes.
This is just one more very visible case, which pleads for the ignorant to be kept from Holy Scriptures. The more I read this stuff, the more I think the Catholic Church should have kept the Scriptures to themselves!
DON'T THESE PEOPLE EVER GET EMBARRASSED?
PROPHETS FOR PROFITS
(Buy MY book and you will know the inside 'truth')
Here is a sampling of different "prophets". I am trying to pick out some of the more glaring inconsistencies to show you that they either just don't cut the mustard when it comes to the art of prophecy, or they are, like our first contestant, flaming heretics!
PROPHET # 1-- WILLIAM BRANHAM, HERETIC!
Roman Catholicism sprang from the descendants of the apostate first church of Rome established in AD36 by the apostles
Junius and Andronicus. It organized under pagan emperor Constantine when it exchanged the faith for the Babylonian Trinity and united with the Roman State at the First Nicea Council of AD325. It has since introduced more and more of the religion of ancient Babylon.May I have a source for this incredible statement? The Bible lists the Apostles and these are two names I simply must have missed somewhere.
The fifth angel was Martin Luther whose Message to the Sardis Age was a double-edged sword, bringing grace and eternal Life to those who received and lived It, or a temporary judgment pending appeal at the White Throne to those who claimed they were Christians but were the synagogue of Satan.
Martin Luther is one Roman Catholic priest who was born-again. The baptism with the Holy Spirit that makes one a Christian comes by a clear revelation of the Word promised for that Age. The old desires die and the new Life becomes a written epistle of the Word of the hour.
That's some angel you have there. Tampered with the word of God, changed it to suit his purpose, threw out books of the Old Testament, drank, swore, and generally acted like a very worldly guy. Wonder if Branham knew THAT?
Who told us God is a Trinity? ...certainly not prophets! There's never been a Trinitarian prophet, a Trinitarian would fail the test for a prophet.
WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT!! I thought you just said that Luther was a "messenger" for his generation and was born again. Luther was a TRINITARIAN, you nutcase!!
Who told us Jesus Christ IS God - Jehovah, manifested in flesh? Prophets! Jesus is a MANIFESTATION of God. I Timothy 3:16, "And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: GOD (not some second or third person, but God), was MANIFEST in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached to the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory."
Well, who told you that He wasn't? So whom do I believe? You or the Church which God authorized to speak in His name?
It may surprise you to learn that 99.99% of church-goers already have the mark of the beast and don't know it. It's the same today as it was in the garden of Eden. It is receiving Satan's deception instead of faith or understanding of the revealed Word of God. Eve received Satan's carnal reasoning against the revealed Word. It's the mark of the beast. It's what all our denominational churches preach. That's why God's been calling the wise and
foolish virgin out of them since the end of Christ's mediation for part-Word.
When the Gentile dispensation is fulfilled and Satan cast out, the Church is complete and ready to manifest the Sons of God. Grace is finished. The vast majority of the world worships Satan today, and I mean so-called Christians. Today's denominations are apostate as were Israel's denominations at the time of Jesus' first Coming: They worship Jesus in vain, teaching for doctrine the commandments of men. For instance, trinities, water baptism in three Titles, Apostle's Creeds (so-called), catechisms, Christmas, Easter, women preachers, permit women to cut their hair and to wear clothes that pertains to a man, espouse equality of the sexes, multiculturalism and miscegenation.
RIGHT!! All except the simon pure Branhamites, who spend their days looking into the air to be delivered from this evil world.
Until the Fall, Satan was co-equal with God - all but a creator or Logos, and Eve was co-equal with Adam - all but the original Word. After the Fall, Satan was rejected and Eve lost her co-equality. She was no longer on ABSOLUTE free moral agency any longer but subject to man and under the authority of her husband.
DUCK!!! INCOMING LIGHTENING!!!
Man, this is one severe case of heresy if I ever did see one!! Wonder if there is any cure for these unfortunate folks?
PROPHET # 2 - DIMITRU DUDUMAN
This is from a Web site reproducing the "prophecies" of one Dimitru Duduman. One wonders when they are going to blush and pull this whole web of lies down. One also wonders, from time to time, what happens to such false prophets as Dimitru.
Vision received November 29, 1996 -
As I was laying in my hospital bed, looking over the faces of my family, three men appeared beside me. One had a globe in his hand, and he began to rotate it and point out certain countries saying: "This is where the destruction will come from." I don't remember all the places he pointed to, but I remember I saw Mexico, Cuba, and the Alaskan border. Then one of the men spoke to me; "we fought against death for you. It was a hard fight. Do not fear you will not leave. You still have work to do."
Suddenly, 3 stars appeared behind them. One of them asked; "Do you know what that means?" "No" I answered. "We won't say exactly, but it probably means that in another 3 years a great massacre will occur." Then the stars turned into blood, and everything disappeared.
"I won't say exactly"? What's wrong with this picture. I never heard of a prophet receiving a garbled message like this. "It probably means....PROBABLY?? Where in the Bible would you find one of God's messengers giving a confused message like this?
Oh, and since it is now September of the year 2000, I would say this is a false prophecy, from a false prophet, whose writings should just be ignored.
PROPHET # 3 -- UNNAMED
Another "prophet" speaks. Let's see what this one has to say:
I wanted to share a vision regarding the economy. I saw something like a man in a protected hospital environment. He appeared to be unconscious and larboring falsely when breathing. As I looked I could see that he was attached to all sorts of artificial life support. I saw his charts and graphs at the foot of his bed and his name was, "The Economy". Attendants were mummering that they could keep him alive artifically for an indefinate time. Just then the Great Physican came in to give His diagnosis. He said, "No. Let that which is dead die". He pulled a switch with His own hand and within seconds the man just stopped and died. I don't thinks this needs much explanation and I submit it for consideration and prayer.
Notice how vague this "prophecy" is. This could happen 100 years from now and this prophet would be hailed as a real prophet of the Lord. This "vision" is just too generic to impress me much, even if it happened tomorrow. Another "prophecy" (actually more of a message) from the same man:
I went quietly praying in the Spirit. The man in the prayer line asked me to quit praying and just start receiving. Quit paying? Now that was a first! He then told me to empty my mind so I could receive from God. Little alarm bells began going off. Before receiving Christ, I wandered through most every ism the world has to offer. Eastern mysticism was always trying to get me to empty my mind so I could reach God. I went "ugh - oh!"
The Bible tells us to submit ourselves to God for personal transformation by the renewal of out minds, not by emptying them. When I informed the individual of my biblical stance, he laughed, laid his hands on me, and asked God to deliver me from my "Pharisaical spirit." OK, now I was mad. I informed the gentleman that I didn't have a "Pharisaical spirit" and I finally left. The whole experience was absolutely bizarre.
There seems to be a perverse disdain of sound doctrine in some Christian circles, a spooky development in the light of 2 Timothy 4:3. "For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears." I answered the gentleman in the prayer line with solid, sound doctrine hoping to correct his errant and unbiblical practice. His response was to call me a Pharisee.
Jesus never rebuked the Pharisees for their devotion to the eternal, unchanging truth of God's Word. Quite the opposite. He rebuked them for setting aside God's Word in favor of their own tradition, their "personal ministry model" if you will. He rebuked them in Matthew 15:6, "Thus have ye made the commandment of God of none effect by your tradition." This individual was in fact of doing the very thing he was accusing me of doing! So who was really the Pharisee?
Yeah, and since you speak in tongues (I assume) and he does, and both of you claim to be led of the Spirit of God, which one of you was wrong? Neither. I guess it depends upon whom you ask. This guy swears he's right and the guy that laid hands on him would swear that he is right instead of this man. What fun!
PROPHET # 4 -- "THE WATCHER"
Concerning the Planetary Alignment of May 2000
May 7, 2000 is the Jewish Date Iyar 2, 5760. On this date the heavenly bodies Venus, Mercury, Sun, Jupiter, Saturn, Mars, and the Moon, will all be in a straight line. The historian Josephus says that these seven represent the menorah (lampstand) in the Temple ("Antiquities..." 3, V11:7). This is the date when Solomon started to build the first Temple and Ezra started building the second Temple. The Moon in the Talmudic tradition represents the Messiah, just as does the center lampstand of the menorah. The three branches on either side of the central stem (6 branches) represent man grafted into the Messiah. Similarly, the planets on either side of the Moon symbolize a menorah in the heavens. As the menorah in the Temple symbolizes the Church physically on Earth, an alignment of the planetary menorah in the heavens portends the Body of Christ dwelling in heaven.
Hosea 6:2 says, "let us return to the Lord, in 2 days he will revive us, and on the 3rd day he will raise us up, and we will be forever in His sight."
The birth of Jesus was preceded by signs in the heavens (at least one year before the Advent). Johanas Kepler calculated the conjunction which heralded his birth as occurring in the year 7- 6 BC. Kepler believed that the star of Bethlehem was in fact the conjunction of Jupiter and Saturn in the constellation Pisces. This conjunction occured several times, and was recognized by the Magi as THE COSMIC SIGN preceding Messiah (the book of Daniel and other Jewish prophecy was known to the Chaldean Magi due to the period of Jewish Babylonian captivity).
According to the Talmud, the sacrifices of the Day of Atonement were not accepted by God for 40 years before the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 AD. This nullification of animal sacrifices corresponds to the time of Jesus' Atonement on the cross. The studies of Kepler and the account of Day of Atonement sacrifices in the Talmud point to the year AD 28 as the date for Jesus's death and resurrection. If one uses the formula of "a day to the Lord is as 1,000 years", then the first 2 "days" will end in the Fall of the year 2000, each year containing 360 days from the Spring of the year 28 AD.
As in the year preceding the first Advent, there will again be a conjunction of Jupiter and Saturn , beginning in May of 2000. This time, however, it will occur first in Aries, and will move to Taurus. The constellation Taurus symbolizes the coming of the Messiah in judgment. Taurus is the 9th in the Zodiac narrative, which begins with Virgo. This conjunction also occurs exactly 2000 Biblical years from the triumphal entry of Jesus into Jerusalem preceding Passover 28AD.
Joshua 3:4 declares that whenever the Ark of the Covenant would be carried in the wilderness before the tribes of Israel, the people would have to remain at least 2000 cubits from it. The Ark typically represents the Messiah. In the Fall of the year 2000, it will have been 2000 prophetic years since the Messiah was cut off in 28AD. The nation of Israel will have not yet accepted Jesus , but when the Antichrist is revealed at the mid-point of the tribulation, they will begin to get the picture.
Signs in the Sun and Moon Discerning the Times and Seasons
Since the spring of 1996, there have been consecutive lunar eclipses on every major full moon feast day of Israel. The first eclipse in the series fell on Passover April 3rd, 1996. The second, The Eve of the Feast of Tabernacles, September 27th, 1996. The third will occur on Purim, March 23rd, 1997. These 3 eclipses will have taken place within the span of one Biblical year. These lunar eclipses are a sign in the heavens, calling our attention to these Holy Days of Israel - Passover, Tabernacles, and Purim.
From the beginning of the Jewish Civil New Year, which began in September of 1996, until Passover in 1999, there will be a sign which will not occur again for 11,000 years. The new moon will rise from the horizon directly in the constellation of Virgo and move within 24 hours to the feet of this constellation. The sun will be just below the horizon, seeming to clothe the woman with the sun. This configuration of the constellation Virgo, giving birth to the moon will not occur for 11,000 years because of the precession of the equinoxes. The new moon is very significant to the Talmudic Jews because it is the basis of their calendar system. It is believed to symbolize the Messiah.
Not only will this past Jewish religious year have begun and ended with a lunar eclipse on it's first and last Holy Days, but it also will have been a year neatly bracketed by consecutive appearances of comets. The comet Hyukatake was at its closest approach to Earth on Passover 1996, and the comet Hale-Bopp will be at the same point in the sky as its heavenly predecessor on Passover 1997.
This would seem to portend SOME EVENT to occur on that date in the near future, on Israel's Feast of PASSOVER .
Well....interesting. Not too nutty, actually. I would like to know from where this author gets all the assumptions he goes by, like the Menorah in the heavens. I think that is kind of a stretch. But really this one is quite tame compared to some of his neighbors in this file.
(Hey, mess us prophesy & get your name mentioned here!)
On December 7, 1998, God gave me this warning for America:
There is so much pride and sin in America. There is going to be a natural disaster in the United States like no other so far. I feel it could happen the spring of 2000. It will be in the northeast part of the US and there will be lives lost. The only thing that can change God's mind is 2 Chronicles 7:14 "If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land."
Yup, one more down the tubes! Notice the nice "weasel clause" at the end of the prophecy. Guess we all repented, right?
Oh, just found this little additional piece of information. This is "REV" Sharon Cook. Doncha just love it when these Pentecostals ignore the Bible they claim is their only source of truth?
1Ti 2:12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
1Ti 3:2 A bishop then must be blameless,
the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;Yeah, that's pretty clear to me, and apparently to the Catholic Church, who properly still are not ordaining women "priests".
(And after you read this silliness you'll probably understand why he chooses to remain unknown!)
All of which was Given to me as part of a series of on-going Visions. And, so that I would be able to demonstrate that these Words are from God Almighty, At the time He provided me with that which is found in Bands' Report, The Lord also told me to issue this additional Prophesy: To wit:
"From this day forward (July, 1990), no appreciable amount of moisture will fall on the original fourty eight states, except that it falls with violence, and creates far more damage and destruction than it does good."
And which Prophecy was issued by Authority that The Lord Of Hosts Granted to me persuant to verse six of chapter eleven, in the Book of Revelation; Verses sixteen and seventeen of chapter eleven in the Book of Zechariah; And other verses that need not be mentioned at this time.
Uhhhhh.......hello? Didn't happen. DID NOT. False prophet and decieved nutcase.
I first issued the above prophesy to a very limited number of people, in July, 1990. Then later, in July 1992, I mailed detailed written copies of same to every U.S. Representative; To every state governor; To then President George Bush; To then Vice President Dan Quale; And, to dozens of America's best known spiritual leaders.
In addition to issuing the above described Prophecy and Plague that pertains to weather, I have issued a number of others that pertain to America's every form of transportation; To her medical industries; To her food supplies; And in fact, to America's absolute Destruction by God Almighty.
Since the time I received the above described Discernment, The Lord has given me the following; Which pertains to what is now being referred to as the "Y2K" problem; Relative to problems that even MAN is predicting will occur at the turn of the century, regarding many of their computers.
THIS DISCERNMENT OF THIS SCRIPTURE ALSO MAKES IT CLEAR THAT GOD ALMIGHTY WILL UTTERLY DESTROY THE UNITED STATES BEFORE PRESIDENT BILL CLINTON LEAVES OFFICE. The following is a Discernment of the Book of Daniel, verses 7:17-27, and Revelation 17:12-18.
"These great beasts, which are four, are four governments which shall arise on the earth.
Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth government upon earth, which shall be different from all other governments, in that it will be controlled by its people; And it shall swallow up the whole earth, and shall economically control it, and financially break it in pieces.
And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten corporate entities that shall arise: And another shall rise up after them; And he shall be different from the first, in that the first (top) ten corporations shall be owned by public stockholders, while the other that shall arise after them will be essentially controlled by one individual; And this individual will appear (financially) larger than the first ten corporations, And he shall subdue three of the original (top) ten corporations (which consisted of IBM, NBC, and another)
And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws (so as to at least postpone the Y2K problem): And he shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time to complete it.
Which means that all of the above must be completed P R I O R to the year 2,000 A.D.
Which also means B E F O R E Clinton leaves office. But before he can accomplish same, The Lord's Court will sit, and they will take away the fourth kingdom's dominion. And by way of The Lord's Judgement, will consume and destroy the fourth kingdom and both of its neighbors, unto the end. First by fire, then by water! (see Daniel 7:11)
Which also means B E F O R E Clinton leaves office.
Just before the above Decree is carried out; As the fulfillment of Revelation 17:16-17, wherein God has said that these (top) ten American corporations would give their authority to America (the fourth kingdom), until His Word had been fulfilled: They will move their operations, and the jobs that go with them, to foreign soils. (You are now seeing this happen, so America's end is
VERY near.)And, immediately after which, those who remain on earth will experience a time of tribulation such as the world has never known. Much of which will be brought about by the Y2K problem.
Whereas, The Lord has long since Declared that He has laid a trap for mankind, and its arrogance to even
THINK that it can intrude on His Exclusive Authority over the realm of mankind; By trying to decide for themselves, who is going to be permitted (by them), to own or control material things.Whereas, pursuant to the Decree written in Daniel 7:12: The nations that remain after The Lord has Destroyed America, will have their Authority to govern things that pertain to man taken from them; But, The Lord will Grant them an extension of time (amounting to one thousand years) to continue to exist. And during which time, The Lord's Only Begotten Son will Reign over the earth.
And the earth, and all the kingdoms under the whole heaven (which consists of all nations that remain after the fourth kingdom [america] and both of its neighbors [Canada and Mexico] have been utterly Destroyed, by fire); Shall, pursuant to Daniel 7:12, be given to the people of the saints of the most High, whose kingdom is an everlasting kingdom; And pursuant to Daniel 7:13-14, all dominions shall serve and obey Him."
My, we are really getting some high quality nuts for our fruitcake, aren't we?
Once again we are treated to the "true truth" by the divinely inspired pen of Larry.
What you hear in secret, shout from the rooftops. Daniel 8 reveals the fate of America.
This is an area of Bible prophecy ripe with important meaning but which has been overlooked almost completely by prophecy scholars.
Silly me. And all this time I thought Daniel was talking about the Old Covenant kingdom of God -- Israel.
Here is pictured a Desert Storm-like annihilation of these Islamic forces. The two horns are utterly broken with no one to help. With the demise of the Soviet Union we need not fear retaliation if we should bomb several of these Islamic countries into submission. It is interesting to note that Daniel is standing right near the border of Iraq and Kuwait when he receives this vision!
What happens next? The US becomes very proud. "Therefore the he goat waxed very great." (v. 8) We will be so proud of our Super Bowl sting of these Islamic dogs. Picture George Bush' victory dances around the country after Desert Storm. Beware when you see the US in its next victory dance of this type, when the second horn is crushed. Verse 8 succinctly says:
"...and when he was strong, the great horn was broken."
Here is the plain biblical revelation of the fate of the U.S. The symbolism of the "great horn"--the U.S.--being "broken" is a graphic picture of the economic collapse of the U.S.
Flee from the wrath to come!
Amazing. Everyone for 2000 years just totally missed this. But here we finally get treated to the truth of America's participation in the "last days".
Now here's something interesting, given without the usual criticism of the Papacy as the "anti-christ"
The Prophecies of St. Malachay
It is hard to believe--it is incredible!!--that Malachay prophesied as he did, and it is not more widely known. Too often people are dull, skeptical and--to their own hurt in this case--ignorant.
This godly man had visions which he put into Latin phrases, one per Pope, from Celestine II in the year 1143 all the way to the present! Eight centuries ago, he was able to spin a few prophetic words about each pope which, in hindsight, all "hit the mark!!"
For instance of Pope Innocent XI, who reigned from 1676 to 1689 Malachay wrote "Bellua Insatiabilis", that is, "An insatiable beast." History records that Innocent was never "sine Cibo", that is, he was never without food!!
Let a short list be given here, of the last 10 Popes, showing in brief the accuracy of Malachay's prophecies:
The Burning Fire. PIUS X. 1903-1914. This Pope showed a burning passion for spiritual renewal in the Church.
Religion Laid Waste. BENEDICT XV. 1914-1922. During this Pope's reign saw Communism move into Russia where religious life was laid waste, and World War I with the death of millions of Christians who were carnage in Flanders Field and elsewhere.
Unshaken Faith. PIUS XI. 1922-1939. This Pope faced tremendous pressure from fascist and sinister powers in Germany and Italy, but he was an outspoken critic of Communism and Fascism which enraged Hitler.
An Angelic Shepherd. PIUS XII. 1939-1958. This Pope had an affinity for the spiritual world and received visions which have not been made public. Peter Bander says Pius XII "has emerged as one of the great Popes of all time," and he "was in the truest sense of the word an Angelic Pastor to the flock..."
Pastor and Mariner. JOHN XXIII. 1958-1963. John was a pastor to the world, much beloved, and the Patriarch of Venice. The connection to "mariner" is thus remarkable.
Flower of Flowers. PAUL VI. 1963-1978. Paul's coat-of-arms depicts three fleurs-de-lis, corresponding to Malachay's prophecy.
Of the Half Moon. JOHN PAUL I. 1978-1978. John Paul I was elected Pope on August 26, 1978, when there was a half moon. He reigned 33 days, that is, about one month, when he died, although many think he was murdered.
The Labor of the Son. JOHN PAUL II. 1978-Present. John Paul II is the most travelled Pope in history. He has circled the globe numerous times, preaching to huge audiences everywhere he goes. Even though he was once shot, he has not seemed to slow down. He has recently written a book which has enjoyed a large circulation. Like the sun which never ceases to labor and provides light daily, this Pope has been incessant. John Paul II was born on May 18, 1920. On that date in the morning there was a near total eclipse of the sun over Europe...
The Glory of the Olive. The Order of St. Benedict has said this Pope will come from their order. It is interesting that Jesus gave his apocalyptic prophecy about the end of time from the Mount of Olives. This Pope will reign during the beginning of the tribulation Jesus spoke of.
PETER the Roman. This final Pope will likely be Satan, taking the form of a man named Peter who will gain a worldwide allegiance and adoration. He will be the final antichrist which prophecy students have long foretold. If it were possible, even the very elect would be deceived. Malachay's final words are:
In the final persecution of the Holy Roman Church there will reign Peter the Roman, who will feed his flock among many tribulations; after which the seven-hilled city (Rome, the seat of the Vatican) will be destroyed and the dreadful Judge will judge the people.
Well! Do we finally have a somewhat honest Protestant here? I went to the Catholic Encyclopedia and looked up good old St. Malachy and sure enough, he was in there. And his Papal prophesies as well! Interesting. I do think that one last statement is in order regarding this "prophecy"
From the Catholic Encyclopedia:
The last of these prophecies concerns the end of the world and is as follows: "In the final persecution of the Holy Roman Church there will reign Peter the Roman, who will feed his flock amid many tribulations, after which the seven-hilled city will be destroyed and the dreadful Judge will judge the people. The End." It has been noticed concerning Petrus Romanus, who according to St. Malachy's list is to be the last pope, that the prophecy does not say that no popes will intervene between him and his predecessor designated Gloria olivoe. It merely says that he is to be the last, so that we may suppose as many popes as we please before "Peter the Roman". Cornelius a Lapide refers to this prophecy in his commentary "On the Gospel of St. John" (C. xvi) and "On the Apocalypse" (cc. xvii-xx), and he endeavours to calculate according to it the remaining years of time
.So let's not be looking real soon for the Anti-Christ, okay?
(Talk about unembarrassed date setters -- look at this!)
A STAR CROSSED PASSOVER
May 1997. By: David Fry, Jr., the Newsletter, P.O. Box 21, Keene, TX 76059
The following excerpt was sent in response to our last Newsletter "Was Comet Hale-Bopp an Omen" (author unknown).
Comet Hale-Bopp update
Apparently Bob Wadsworth, who has done intensive work plotting, and studying comets Hale-Bopp and Hyakutake discovered something interesting. A coincidence! While plotting the paths of Hyakutake during the month of April 96, against the projected path of comet Hale-Bopp during the month of April 97 an almost perfect [cross] is formed where they intersect at almost an 90 degree angle. Furthermore, both comets crossed this point on the EXACT same day of the year (April 11th). In other words, on April 11th 1996, comet Hyakutake occupied the same spot in the sky that comet Hale-Bopp did on April 11th 1997.
Now, where is this point in the sky? This point is in the constellation of Perseus, who holds the severed head of the Gorgon, Medusa. This intersection point just happens to be the middle of the head of Medusa at the eye. This eye is the star ALGOL. Therefore, in Greek mythology these two comets intersect on the same day, in different years, forming an almost perfect cross in the eye of Medusa!
Traditionally, according to the Starlore Handbook, ALGOL is the MOST MALEVOLENT star of the heavens. More interesting is what the Hebrews called this star. In Hebrew it is known as the HEAD OF SATAN!
John Leary messages, and Patricia Talbot think a comet will be a sign of the coming of Antichrist. John Leary message excerpt: Thursday, March 27, 1997: (Holy Thursday) Jesus said:
"My son, this comet that you have seen tonight with your own eyes, is the sign of the Anti-Christ's coming. I have told you before to look to the skies for the signs of things to come. I have also told you that I, and not the Anti-Christ, would produce this sign of his coming. As you see the darkness come after, you will know his reign will be brief, but darkness will have its day much like the men I allowed to crucify Me for your sake."
The following is a quote from "The Witness of the Stars" by E. W. Bullinger, pp. 116-117, concerning the star Algol:
"It is a most remarkable phenomenon that so many of these enemies should be characterized by variable stars! But this head of Medusa, like the neck of Cetus, has one. AlGol is continually changing. In about 69 hours it changes from the 4th magnitude to the 2nd. During four hours of this period it gradually diminishes in brightness, which it recovers in the succeeding four hours; and in the remaining part of time, invariably preserves its greatest lustre. After the expiration of this time its brightness begins to decrease again. Fit emblem of our great enemy, who, "like a roaring lion, goeth about seeking whom he may devour" (I Peter 5:8); then changing into a subtle serpent (Genesis 3:83); then changing again into an angel of light" (2 Corinthians 11:14). "Transforming himself" continually, to devour, deceive, and destroy." (end of article)
I love coincidences, unfortunately our own conclusions of what the coincidences mean is mere subjective speculation. But, if that is all we have, then speculation will suffice until the evidence gets harder. Yet, we do have Hebrew lore that the birth of Jesus was heralded by a rare conjunction of planets in the sign of Pieces, and that a comet appeared three years before His birth. (The star of Bethlehem does not meet the criteria of a comet, supernova, or a planetary conjunction, so unless it was a real angel, then it remains a true mystery.)
In searching for something meaningful about the Antichrist which has to do with April 11 (1996 & 1997), except for it occurring near the Passover season, little relevance is determined.
But one more coincidence appears to be in store. Again April 11 is involved. No, not April 11 of 1996, or of 1997;
it occurs in 1998. Yes, next year the Passover occurs on April 11.The interesting aspect about all this is that we can now virtually prove that the [great] tribulation [a 3.5 year (42-month) period] will begin in the Passover season. (This information will be released in a new lecture coming in June.)
That's one date wrong!
You'd think he would have stopped here, right?
Read on.
7 YEARS of PLENTY
(Begins in the Fall of 1992)7 YEARS of FAMINE
(Begins Fall'99) / 7 THUNDERS Wrong!1st THUNDER: World War III (WW3)
(about September, 1999). Wrong!2nd THUNDER: Mystery Babylon Falls
(late November, 1999 to 12/31/99) Wrong!USA's FALL, Phase 1: USA Economic Collapse (about October, 1999).
Wrong!USA's FALL, Phase 2: Martial Law imposed in the USA.
Wrong!USA's FALL, Phase 3: Nuclear Attack on the USA; the surprise ending.
Wrong!3rd THUNDER: World divided into 10 Regions.
4th THUNDER: 4 Powers established as the supreme leaders of the NWO.
5th THUNDER: 3 Beast Kingdoms systematically uprooted.
6th THUNDER: Antichrist power set up (about the Spring of 2003).
Rapture of the Bride of Christ (Christians) (before July 23, 2005).
7th THUNDER: Great Babylon falls. Armageddon.
Antichrist power broken. Christ Returns
You would think these guys would be hiding in a cave somewhere from the sheer embarrassment of it all, but the web site is still up and running!!
But this is not enough. These guys are simply gluttons for humiliating self-abuse:
The Bible's 911 "1st Thunder
^So what? God is finished with national Israel. Why can't these people understand that?
June 3, 1999. Extracted from a newsletter written by Tom Van Asperen.
Obviously another goofball. (Yeah, I know, I should be kinder to these nutcases, right?)
Fourth Angel Seminars, P. O. Box 2227, Paradise, CA 95967. http://www.twicespeak.com
When the ELS (Equidistant Letter Sequencing) computer program (on the ELS computer TV program called "Bible Code: The Future and Beyond" at http://www.pax.net) is told to search [in the Bible] for "September 11, 1999," the screen is filled with the most terrible warnings. The following words appear on the screen:
Oh, here's a real reliable way to read and understand the Bible. Let's dig in to see just how reliable this hermeneutic is!!
"September 11, 1999" "war" [as in World War III]
"market" [as in the 1929 stock "market" crash] "Daniel" [as in the book of "Daniel" which contains the seven thunders]
"depression" [as in the 1929 "depression"] "terrorists" [as in Moslem terrorism]
"beast" [as in New World Order "beast" power] "chaos" [as in the chaotic curse of Daniel 9:11-14
"holocaust" [as in the "holocaust" of WW II] "Russia" [as the Russian bear of Daniel 7:5
"blood" [is mentioned no less than six times] "Judge" [as in the judgment of Daniel 7:10
"abortion" [as in the women's "free choice" "abortion"] [abomination] "sin" [is mentioned three times as in Daniel 9:5, 8, 11
"pandemonium" [as in the bombing of the World Trade Center Building] "destruction" [as in "My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge."]
"refugees" [as in holocaust refugees] "plague" [as in anthrax and bubonic "plague"]
"famine" [as in the seven bad years of "famine" in Genesis 41] "Tokyo" [Apparently something very serious is also going happen involving Tokyo]
ELS (Equidistant Letter Sequencing) background info: In Revelation 5:1
It is now recognized by many that this book is actually the Bible and the "seven seals" are the seven last day languages which are encoded in the original Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek text of the Bible. For instance, one of these seven languages is the Biblical computer language of Equidistant Letter Sequencing or simply ELS.
Those who are "wise" and who have observed the accuracy of ELS (especially when it is decoded by Yacov Ramsel) will realize the absolute seriousness of the above dated, prophetic ELS warnings. Because of their life and death ramifications, they have likewise been checked and verified as accurate by Mr. Ramsel.
Mr. Ramsel should get himself into another line of work. No, on second thought, he is smarter than he looks, for he realizes that there is never going to be a paucity of suckers lining up to believe this nonsense. Mr. Ramsel should get himself into another line of work. No, on second thought, he is smarter than he looks, for he realizes that there is never going to be a paucity of suckers lining up to believe this nonsense. For a classic refutation of this fatally flawed methodology, try the following link: http://cs.anu.edu.au/~bdm/dilugim/moby.html.
Maybe I should get into this "Bible Prophecy Business". You know, write a book, promote it to the type of people who buy into this stuff, and then retire off of the proceeds. Considering the number of nuts in this fruitcake here, it would not take long once I have tapped into their little ‘network’.
I got it! Jesus and UFO's! Ought to be a best seller, given the current gullibility of most Christians.
Oh and as for the ELS prophecies for September 11, 1999 I guess they were a bust weren’t they?
BUT WAIT --THERE'S MORE!!
This place is just a little gold mine of absolute wild eyed fanatics.
Based on this analysis of two visions received by Dumitru Duduman,
Babylon (America) will fall about November 29, 1999 (before March 21, 2000).
On November 29, 1996, Dumitru Duduman received a vision
"We won't say exactly, but it probably means that
in another 3 years a great massacre will occur."
The vision also had to do with
"where the destruction [for America] will come from."
November 29, 1996 plus 3 years leads us to conclude that
the destruction of America will occur about November 29, 1999.
Early in 1991, Dumitru Duduman received a vision or a prophecy
If the people of America will not repent and turn back to God,
they will not make it through the second day to the third day.
[Hosea 6:1-3
If we assume
that the thousand year "days" are referenced to a creation week that includes the Spring equinox of 4001 B.C. (about March 21), and
that "through the second day" would then refer to through March 21, 2000 A.D., and
that the "third day" refers to the millennial reign of Christ on this earth,
we would conclude that
the destruction of America will occur before March 21, 2000 A.D.
Therefore, based on these two visions and the assumptions stated above,
Babylon (America) will fall about November 29, 1999 (before March 21, 2000).
I know I did Duduman once before, but I just wanted a little more proof that this man was, by Biblical standards (100% accuracy -- nothing less!!) A FALSE PROPHET!!
I am just amazed that these guys haven't pulled down this site, as full of errors as it is.
An independent research project on Bible time prophecies. Evidence of a developing 8,000 year Kingdom time plan. Its centre date fixed the year of Christ's death. The entire plan pivots on this year. Evidence that the 2,520 year, times of the nations may end in 1999.
NEW RESEARCH PAPER
Events have proved that calculations arriving at 1996 for the kingdom set up were wrong but hindsight was provided information well worth considering as to 1999 being the year. This has involved a rewrite of chapters 19 and 20 which are also contained in the research paper.
Notice the usual date setter dilemma. Calculations set for 1996 blew out and now he has to do the usual "Hermeneutical Two Step" that all date setters have had to do. Don't these people EVER learn from one another’s screw-ups? Talk about hardheaded!
Surprise! This appears to be a Jehovah's Witness (or Witless, depending upon how charitable you are feeling towards them) site. Lots of numbers, vague references to Scripture, all very confusing. I won't post any of this, but it is strange.
EPILOGUE - H L MENCKEN ON SOLA SCRIPTURA
"Protestantism, in fact, started out upon its career nursing two massive errors, each of them sufficient to ruin it. One was the error of assuming that all Christians were really Christians, and the other was the error of assuming that they were intelligent enough to ascertain and embrace the truth. Both were found out very quickly, but not soon enough to get rid of them. Their collision with the veriest elements of human nature has produced an immense proliferation of fantastic sects and a long series of anti-papal popes, beginning with Luther and Calvin."
"Today Protestantism is either a banal imitation of Catholicism or a cruel burlesque upon it. It is almost too incoherent to be discussed seriously. I could invent new forms of it almost ad infinitum, as a mathematician invents new algebras, and all of them would be ten times as plausible as Swedenborgianism, Seventh Day Adventism, Christian Science, Holy Rollerism, or the imbecile cults of the Mormons, the Mennonites, the Two-Seed-in-the-Spirit Predestinarian Baptists, or the Salvation Army."
"In such regions bibliolatry turns upon and devours itself. Any half-wit, searching Holy Writ, is free to found a sect of his own - and if not upon the actual text, then upon the interpolations, mistranslations and typographical errors. Thousands of such half-wits, as everyone knows, have made use of that franchise, and the result is chaos."
"The Roman church has escaped the same disaster by keeping the Bible in its place. What the Bible says, however it may clash with common knowledge and common sense, is inspired and infallible --but Holy Church reserves the right to determine precisely what it says. In that reservation there is a wisdom beyond the highest flight of philosophers. Once a Frenchman announced to an American friend that he was leaving the [Catholic] church of his fathers. The American asked what variety of Protestantism he proposed to patronize. 'I have lost my faith,' answered the Frenchman icily, 'but not my reason.'"
"The distinction, it seems to me, is quite sound. One might easily imagine an intelligent man yielding himself to the voluptuous Roman lure --if only cynically, as he might marry a rich and not too dreadful widow. But there is surely nothing to seduce him in Protestantism--not even beauty, not even the charm of romantic devotion, not even the dignity of the ancient and honorable. So far as I am aware, no man of any genuine distinction in the world today is a Methodist; if I am in error, I apologize most humbly. The news that a poet had been converted to Presbyterianism would be first-page stuff anywhere --as much so as the news that he had been converted to monogamy."
"Protestantism, in truth, save in those borderlands where Roman altar-fires perfume and denature it, is endurable only to hinds. It spoils the most lovely poetry in the world by reducing it to harsh and illiterate prose…In Fundamentalism it reaches the nadir of theology. What is worst in Fundamentalism is common, perhaps, to all forms of Christianity, but it is only in the imprecations of the backwoods Wesleys that it is stated plainly. No more shocking nonsense has ever been put into words by theoretically civilized men." [Excerpt from 'Treatise of the Gods’ circa 1930 (Mencken was a skeptic)]
©2000, "Private Interpretation and Fruitcake", compiled and commentary by Edward A. Hara. This text may be downloaded or printed out for private reading, but it may not be uploaded to another Internet site or published, electronically or otherwise, without express written permission from the author.